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Today’s Prop 8 hearing on Judge Walker’s orientation/trial video recordings

Prop 8 trial

By Adam Bink

This morning is the hearing in the Perry v. Brown case to determine (a) whether Judge Walker’s ruling should be reversed on account of accusations of bias regarding his sexual orientation (b) what to do with the video recordings of the trial. The hearing will commence at 9 AM PST in San Francisco.

A few notes:

  • If you missed the preview of today’s coverage that was posted on Friday, today Courage’s Rick Jacobs, Arisha Hatch and Ana Beatriz Cholo will be sending in dispatches from the hearing. I’ll get them up as they come. I’ll also have some pieces up from folks in the community who are in attendance.
  • Speaking of, for those of you who are in attendance, it was wisely suggested we do a Prop8TrialTracker lunch with Rick, Arisha, Ana and those of you who are there, after the hearing concludes. If you’d like to attend, drop me a line at adam AT couragecampaign DOT org and we’ll be making arrangements.
  • If you can’t stay and watch coverage on the blog, I’ll be tweeting from @equalityontrial and @adamjbink. Ana Beatriz Cholo will also be tweeting from @couragecampaign here and there, and @anaperiodista.
  • NCLR’s Shannon Minter and Chris Stoll will have a piece later this morning, and incoming head of Equality California, Roland Palencia, will as well. Calitics.com’s Brian Leubitz will also be providing his usual legal insight here and there.
  • If you’re new to Prop8TrialTracker.com, whether you found us through e-mail or Google, welcome! You’ll find a vibrant, fun community devoted to covering the trial and same-sex marriage in general. You can register or login with IntenseDebate, WordPress, or OpenID to leave a comment, or just leave one as a guest. For more about Prop8TrialTracker.com, check out the About section at the top or by clicking here.

Let’s get it started!

28 Comments

  • 1. Gregory in SLC  |  June 13, 2011 at 6:41 am

    Woot! Glad of the coverage. Thank you much! Watching intently!

  • 2. Straight 4 Equality  |  June 13, 2011 at 6:55 am

    Ditto here.

  • 3. Ronnie  |  June 13, 2011 at 6:55 am

    Stares at screen….mouse has fresh batteries & ready to click "refresh"…..<3…Ronnie

  • 4. Lodi Gal  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:02 am

    I'll be here all day, same as for all of the other court proceedings. Thanks for doing this.

  • 5. LCH  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:03 am

    ♀♀=♂♂=♀♂=∑♡

  • 6. Alan E.  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:05 am

    I’m trying to get my husband out the door! I’ll send in pictures as I get them.

  • 7. Kate  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:08 am

    Anyone

  • 8. DazedWheels  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:10 am

    Hi, everyone. :-)

  • 9. Kate  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:11 am

    Sorry for the mispost. Anyone have any idea of how long the hearing will last?

  • 10. James Tuttle  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:13 am

    Morning all! I’m hoping for a from the bench ruling, anyone else?

  • 11. david v  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:16 am

    According to the Marshalls.. the hearing will be 3 hours (9am -12pm pacific time)

    1st in line.. waiting

  • 12. AnonyGrl  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:23 am

    Hi Kate! I don't have an answer, just haven't seen you in a while. :)

  • 13. Kate  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:26 am

    Hi AnonyGrl!

    Anyone else finding that this site has returned to the old no-reply button format? I think my computer is being attacked by NOM………

  • 14. Alan E.  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:32 am

    Well my husband is sick today, so I’m bringing just myself. Need to figure out plans, but what is the cutoff time to figure out lunch with Rick?

  • 15. Sagesse  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:40 am

    Good morning all. I'll be glancing over from time to time at work today, catching up later. Take good notes, folks :).

  • 16. Gregory in SLC  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:45 am

    It's Ronnie! Greetings! Happy Pride in NYC next week : )

  • 17. JRW  |  June 13, 2011 at 7:59 am

    Headed to work. Wish I could spend this important day with you. Will read up on all your comments tonight!

  • 18. Sheryl Carver  |  June 13, 2011 at 8:17 am

    I think Kathleen estimates, based on Judge Ware's calendar for the proceedings, that it will be over around 11:30. She also noted that these things are never set in stone. (My phrasing.)

  • 19. Cullen  |  June 13, 2011 at 9:10 am

    When are the folks that want to 'protect' the sanctity of marriage going to get serious enough to campaign to outlaw divorce?

  • 20. Gregory in SLC  |  June 13, 2011 at 9:20 am

    hi to both of you : )

  • 21. Gregory in SLC  |  June 13, 2011 at 9:21 am

    and Sheryl C!

  • 22. Gregory in SLC  |  June 13, 2011 at 9:31 am

    NCL rights posting tweets:

    NCLRights NCLR
    Cooper doesn't see how video could be more useful than transcript for #prop8 appeal. JWare: shouldn't you ask 9th Cir what they think?
    53 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    Cooper is arguing that ALL parties must return tapes — and should not be allowed to use them for appeal. #prop8
    1 minute ago

    NCLRights NCLR
    Cooper appears to be asking JWare to remove all copies of #prop8 video from the earth.
    3 minutes ago

    NCLRights NCLR
    JWare wants to know what Cooper's point is, or what Cooper wants from him. Parties have #prop8 video already.
    5 minutes ago

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    Cooper arguing that the protective order must limit use of videotapes to parties within the court. #prop8
    7 minutes ago

    NCLRights NCLR
    JWare wants to know what the point is, noting that parties have copies also for #prop8 appeal. Cooper worried about public viewing video.
    7 minutes ago

    Chris_Stoll Chris Stoll
    by NCLRights
    Cooper rehashing history of #prop8 supporters' objection to the public seeing trial video.
    10 minutes ago

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    After the #prop8 hearing, @AFER will be holding a press conference and our attys will be taking questions from Twitter. RT your question.
    13 minutes ago

    NCLRights NCLR
    Judge Ware: J Walker has returned the video, but I may give it back to him later. Cooper complaining J Walker used vid in speech. #prop8
    13 minutes ago

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    Walker has returned the tapes for now, but Ware says he may rule that Walker is in fact entitled to have them. #prop8
    14 minutes ago

    EqualityOnTrial Testimony
    Judge Ware will hear videotape motion first, spending about 20 mins 4 each side, then 45 mins each on Walker vacate motion. #Prop8
    16 minutes ago

  • 23. Gregory in SLC  |  June 13, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Glad to see Courage Campaign tweeting now too : D

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    TS: The proponents questioned judge's fairness, but then tried to hide from public view how fairly he conducted the trial. #prop8
    1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    NCLRights NCLR
    JWare: appears no reason to think protective order will not be followed. Will deny this motion (on videos) in written order. #prop8
    2 minutes ago

    NCLRights NCLR
    T.Stewart/CitySF 1 minute arg on #prop8 video: its ironic, unworthy that they attack JWalker's fairness/stifle video showing his fairness
    2 minutes ago

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    Therese Stewart now speaking about videotapes …
    3 minutes ago

    CourageCampaign CourageCampaign
    Boutrous: Cooper makes this sound as if it is [videotapes] radioactive state secret. It’s an important judicial record of open court. #Prop8
    4 minutes ago

    NCLRights NCLR
    Boutrous: #prop8 proponents attack on court (JWalker) makes it all the more useful for public to see this video someday. Concludes.
    6 minutes ago

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    Boutrous points out that Proponents' questions about Walker's recusal would make videotapes even more useful to the public. #prop8
    6 minutes ago

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    Boutrous: "Mr Cooper has now conceded that the protective order did not apply to Judge Walker." #prop8
    7 minutes ago

    CourageCampaign CourageCampaign
    Atty Boutrous argues videotapes include a lot of mat'l that backs up case of equality marriage proponents. "It's a very useful record."
    8 minutes ago

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    Boutrous: "As Judge Walker made clear … he relied on the videotape in his preparation of his ruling." #prop8
    8 minutes ago

    CourageCampaign CourageCampaign
    For back-and-forth transcript between Chief Judge Ware and Cooper of ProtectMarriage.com, see here: http://j.mp/lZoPVR #Prop8
    9 minutes ago

  • 24. Gregory in SLC  |  June 13, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Glad to see Courage Campaign tweeting now too : D

  • 25. AnonyGrl  |  June 13, 2011 at 10:15 am

    C: We approach court awkwardly and not desirous of situation. Decision must be by impartial tribunal.

    Does that read to anyone else like Cooper is setting up for a post-decision (when it goes against him) argument that Judge Ware should not have been the one to rule on the motion to vacate, it should instead have been a tribunal?

  • 26. Gregory in SLC  |  June 13, 2011 at 10:28 am

    getting interesting…

    NCLRights NCLR
    JWare trying to get C to state any fact giving real reason to believe JWalker incapable of following his oath in #prop8 case.
    1 minute ago

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    Ware: "You can't simply assume that a judge who takes an oath to uphold the law and judge fairly is incapable of doing so." #prop8
    3 minutes ago
    »

    NCLRights NCLR
    JWare: is there anything about being in a s-s rel that would cause reasonable person to believe judge is biased? #prop8 Cooper struggling.
    4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    Ware: "Is there such as thing as a reasonable bigot?" Cooper: "I have never seen a court speak to…" "Neither have I, I'm asking YOU."
    6 minutes ago

    NCLRights NCLR
    Cooper: my view, the "reasonable" person should not be biased. JWare: well then can a black judge be recused bc he is black? #prop8
    6 minutes ago

    CourageCampaign CourageCampaign
    W: What fact would u cite 2 court Walker sought 2 change his relationship? C: Walker wuld be expected 2 have interest in marrying partner.
    7 minutes ago

    NCLRights NCLR
    This is a bad line of questions for #prop8 supporters argument bc it is based on idea that gay judge can't decide civil rights case.
    10 minutes ago

    NCLRights NCLR
    JWare: is it "reasonable" to decide whether judge is impartial based on your bias or prejudice? Can you be reasonable AND biased? #prop8
    11 minutes ago

    AFER AmericanEqualRights
    Ware: "Is it reasonable to make a judgement about a judge based upon a bias?" Long pause. Cooper says he doesn't understand. #prop8

  • 27. Ann S.  |  June 13, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    It was great to see the P8TTers who could attend today!

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