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SaveCalifornia.com vs. FairInclusivity.edu

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Cross-posted at Good As You

By Jeremy Hooper

 Good As You Images 200811061333-1-2Describing himself as “one of California ‘s top opponents of placing ‘LGBT’ personages in school textbooks” (one must have goals), SaveCalifornia.com’s reliably boundless Randy Thomasson is responding to Gov. Brown’s signing of the FAIR Education Act — responding with a instruction that parents pull their kids from schools, turn a blind eye to the obvious and prolonged problem of anti-LGBT bullying, and instead indoctrinate the little ones with junk science:

Jerry Brown has trampled the parental rights of the broad majority of California mothers and fathers who don’t want their children to be sexually brainwashed,” said Randy Thomasson, president of SaveCalifornia.com, which helped lead the opposition to SB 48. “SB 48 has no parental opt-out. The only way parents can opt-out their kids from this immoral indoctrination is to opt them out the entire public school system, which is no longer for morally-sensitive parents and their children.”

With the signing of SB 48, even more California parent will be shocked to see the glorification of Harvey Milk and other homosexual-bisexual-transsexual role models in school textbooks,” Thomasson said. “SB 48 is the eighth school sexual indoctrination law forcing immorality on kids in California K-12 schools. It’s time for parents who love their children to match their words with deeds and do what’s necessary to get them out of the immoral government schools and into the safe havens of homeschooling and church schools.”

It’s ridiculous that Jerry Brown says he’s making history ‘honest,'” Thomasson added. “The bill he signed prohibits teachers and textbooks from telling children the facts that homosexuality has the highest rate of HIV/AIDS and other STDs, higher cancer rates, and earlier deaths. These important facts about lifestyles children will being forced to admire will be omitted. And Brown calls this ‘honest’? This revisionist history will actually make more children believe a lie — that homosexuality is biological, which it’s not, and healthy, which is isn’t.” (Source: “Not Born This Way”)

The broad majority of parents don’t want their children made to admire homosexuals, bisexuals and transsexuals,” Thomasson said. “Existing laws are more than adequate to address on-campus bullying. There’s no money in the state or local coffers to fund these significant changes to textbooks. Jerry Brown has obviously catered to a small group of homosexual activists who want to sexually brainwash children, just like he catered to them by refusing to defend the People’s vote on marriage licenses.

Pro-Family Response to Jerry Brown’s signing of SB 48 [SaveCalifornia.com]

Making matters worse for the public school culture: I hear Thomasson didn’t even use a No. 2 Pencil to write the above missive. So insubordinate, this one.

Reminder: Last time Randy was this mad over something, he was likening town clerks tasked with marrying gay couples to those Nazi officers who’d been commanded to “gas the Jews.” Lest any of you California history teachers were planning on supporting him.

Break

*NOTE: Even Prop 8 attorney Andy Pugno said Randy “represents the extreme fringe.” However, this doesn’t stop groups like the National Organization For Marriage from using his work. Both NOM proper and NOM’s affiliate Ruth Institute both recently wrote posts that proudly pushed Randy’s “data.

46 Comments

  • 1. Rich  |  July 15, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    I suppose they also would claim that mentioning married heterosexual individuals in history textbooks requires the teacher to immediately discuss the mechanics of heterosexual sex.

  • 2. Ann S.  |  July 15, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Randy is a nutter. Fortunately I think the group of which he is "president" has a membership of approximately one person.

  • 3. equality4us  |  July 15, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Sexual-brainwashing; that's an interesting new term. Is this scouring done with Dove or Lever bars? The more the suds & bubbles the merrier (more gay) the scrubbed victim is?

  • 4. Reformed  |  July 15, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Definitely Dove. As you know, using Lever is a sin because there advertising talks about all the 2000 body parts and you know some of the bad ones are included.

    Stupidity aside, i think these people would be more comfortable if only that other John Wayne (from Michele Bachmann's hometown) were included (and some of their pedophile priests). But, one has to let them know that these people are just serial killers and pedofiles, and, most people deserving of that label are straight. Very nice of us not to propagandize that fact I think.

  • 5. AnonyGrl  |  July 15, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    On one hand, all those kids pulled out of the school system means a LOT more tax dollars to go around to educate the ones who are left… WIN. (for the kids who are left, and for the job market later on with all these really smart kids)

    On the other hand, all those kids who are pulled out of school will be getting pretty much ZIP education from their parents as homeschoolers… LOSE (for those kids, and for us having to deal with them as grownups)

    On the other hand, imagine all these parents, so busy trying to homeschool their kids that they have no TIME to go around causing US grief. WIN (for us, of course).

    On the other hand, imagine how many kids who are being brainwashed anyway will now not be around to bully other kids WIN. (for the bullied)

    On the other hand, imagine all those bullies being bullied by their parents into a religion they have no possible way to even IMAGINE questioning. LOSE (for the kids who simply will never have a way to learn how their lives can be better.)

    I ran out of hands about three hands back.

  • 6. Chris in Lathrop  |  July 15, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    "glorification of Harvey Milk and other homosexual-bisexual-transsexual role models"

    Glorification of role models??? Oh me, oh my! ;)

  • 7. Phillip R  |  July 15, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    I know right. Heaven forbid we glorify accomplishments.

  • 8. FlexSF  |  July 15, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    These are fighting words. “The bill he signed prohibits teachers and textbooks from telling children the facts that homosexuality has the highest rate of HIV/AIDS and other STDs, higher cancer rates, and earlier deaths." This guy deserves to have his face rubbed in a pile of dog shit.

  • 9. JoeRH  |  July 15, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    Thomasson needs to get his sad ass kicked by a queer. At least then he'll have some legitimate evidence of the dangers of a homosexual.

  • 10. Ronnie  |  July 15, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    Subscribing & sharing…..

    Oskar Eustis (Artistic Director, The Public Theater), Rory O'Malley (Book of Mormon, Broadway Impact) and Jordan Roth (President, Jujamcyn Theaters) speak at a press conference about the St. James Theatre on Broadway hosting several same-gender weddings after a performance of "Hair" on July 25th.

    <3…Ronnie:
    [youtube w9NJA8Kv5N8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9NJA8Kv5N8 youtube]

  • 11. Alan_Eckert  |  July 15, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    I will occaisionally read some of their posts and comments on Facebook. It doesn't take long to get disgusted.

  • 12. Alan_Eckert  |  July 15, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    But (on the 11th hand) don't the schools get some funding based on the number of students that attend on a daily basis?

  • 13. AnonyGrl  |  July 15, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    So, what he is saying is "The bill he signed prohibits teachers and textbooks from using our made up statistics to brainwash children and terrify their parents."

    Yay for THAT bill!

  • 14. Alan_Eckert  |  July 15, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Take a look at the top image on this OneNewsNow (AFA's "news" [excuse the scare quotes] service).
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?…

    I think that is how it is done. We have to hollow out a child's head and implant a rainbow.

  • 15. Kathleen  |  July 15, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    UPDATE: Perry

    State Defendants' (Governor, Director and Deputy Director of the Department of Public Health and Attorney General) statement of non-opposition to the Plaintiffs’ motion to publicly release the videotapes of the trial. Filed 7/15/11 http://www.scribd.com/doc/60114524

  • 16. nightshayde  |  July 15, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    I was thinking much the same thing. If the rabidly anti-equality people pull their kids out of schools, it will make more room for everyone else.

    I'd tell them to not let the door hit them on the way out — but I think some of them SHOULD get hit by doors.

  • 17. Bill S.  |  July 15, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Thanks for the update Kathleen on the actions by the democratically elected state defendants. So much for "ignoring the vote of the people": the people did vote, and they voted in a governor and attorney general they knew would not defend Prop 8.

  • 18. Kathleen  |  July 15, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Let's get started!

  • 19. We the people  |  July 15, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    Is'nt it time to remove the ignorance from govt? most elected officials only use public office for personal gain while showing bigotry and ignorance towards the people they are supposidly representing. The Only change citizens will see is that which they evoke.. its time to remove stupidity from office

  • 20. Sagesse  |  July 15, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Mitchell Gold with Peter Sprigg – Teaching Gay and Lesbian History
    http://youtu.be/khlMOEHqW0g

    Peter Sprigg did not win this debate.

  • 21. Sagesse  |  July 15, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    This article suggests Marcus Bachmann's academic and professional credentials are worthless, raising again the question of how his clinic qualifies for Medicaid and other government funding.

    "As Politico has reported, he’s not licensed with any of the boards that certify mental-health professionals in Minnesota, one of the few states that allows unlicensed people to practice mental-health care."

    Marcus Bachmann’s Gay ‘Cure’
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/10/

  • 22. Ronnie  |  July 15, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    MSNBC's Thomas Roberts talks with Senator Mark Leno about the FAIR Act……… <3…Ronnie:
    [youtube RCaInxgYErM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCaInxgYErM youtube]

  • 23. fiona64  |  July 15, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Quote: telling children the facts that homosexuality has the highest rate of HIV/AIDS and other STDs, higher cancer rates, and earlier deaths.

    Hmm. I'm looking for the "facts," and I don't see a single one there.

  • 24. fiona64  |  July 15, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Yes. It's called Federal Impact Aid. I had to learn about this when I worked for the DoD, because some bases have schools on them. FIA is $X amount per student enrolled, per day. This is one of the reasons why the Federal voucher program(s) that conservatives keep bringing up are so bad; they would take money from FIA to go to private (read: parochial) schools or homeschoolers.

  • 25. fiona64  |  July 15, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Yeah, all those horrible people like Leonardo da Vinci, Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, Oscar Wilde … heaven forfend we teach children that these people exist.

    Oh, wait.

  • 26. FlexSF  |  July 15, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Wow. Mark Leno batted that interview out of the park. I love how he nailed the Bachman bigots to the wall. P v. B must prevail in this federal court challenge and originate the strongest equality protections in the world.

  • 27. Sagesse  |  July 15, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    "SB 48 is the eighth school sexual indoctrination law… " Silly question, perhaps, but what are the other seven laws, and what is the evidence of the Armageddon they have caused?

  • 28. Sheryl, Mormon Mom  |  July 15, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Good question Sagesse, was wondering the same thing myself. Was also wondering when those laws were implemented. Realize my son graduated in 1997 but he never mentioned any classes in which homosexuality was discussed. Guess it was after that.

    Funny story, at least I think it is, his high school principal would not let the drama club use a cow as their mascot because udders were too sexual. On Halloween that year, my son who had not worn a costume for Halloween since a young child, wore a cow costumer, udders included, to school.

  • 29. Robin  |  July 15, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    "Existing laws are more than adequate to address on-campus bullying."

    …Yeah, no. Today I overheard three kids in my liberal bubble hometown refer to a classmate as a "fucking faggot." Gay kids need all the help they can get.

  • 30. d_ott_1  |  July 16, 2011 at 6:48 am

    The problem here is when you use public $ as they do in public school you MUST represent all people who that money comes from in an equal way. History is important. Why can't these people understand that? Our LGBTQ community represents some of those tax payers. We deserve the right to represented. And how dumb do they think kids are? With 12 year olds having babies do they really need to ask how sex works?

  • 31. Bob  |  July 16, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Here are the facts from the CDC:

    Gay and bisexual men — referred to in CDC surveillance systems as men who have sex with men (MSM) — of all races continue to be the risk group most severely affected by HIV. Additionally, this is the only risk group in the U.S. in which the annual number of new HIV infections is increasing. There is an urgent need to expand access to proven HIV prevention interventions for gay and bisexual men, as well as to develop new approaches to fight HIV in this population.

    A Snapshot

    MSM account for nearly half of the more than one million people living with HIV in the U.S. (48%, or an estimated 532,000 total persons).

    MSM account for more than half of all new HIV infections in the U.S. each year (53%, or an estimated 28,700 infections).

    While CDC estimates that MSM account for just 4 percent of the U.S. male population aged 13 and older, the rate of new HIV diagnoses among MSM in the U.S. is more than 44 times that of other men (range: 522–989 per 100,000 MSM vs. 12 per 100,000 other men).

    MSM are the only risk group in the U.S. in which new HIV infections are increasing. While new infections have declined among both heterosexuals and injection drug users, the annual number of new HIV infections among MSM has been steadily increasing since the early 1990s
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFact

  • 32. Bob  |  July 16, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Cancer rates significantly higher in gay men, but study lacked data on HIV
    Michael Carter
    Published: 16 May 2011

    Cancer rates are almost twice as high in gay men than the male heterosexual population, US researchers report in the online edition of the journal Cancer.

    The study also showed that bisexual women had elevated rates of cervical cancer. Bisexual women and lesbians diagnosed with cancer were more likely to report fair or poor health than heterosexual women who had survived cancer.

    Conducted in California, the study utilised data obtained from approximately 120,000 adults who participated in three household-based health surveys conducted in 2001, 2003 and 2005.
    http://www.aidsmap.com/Cancer-rates-significantly

  • 33. Sheryl_Carver  |  July 16, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    And page 2 of that report gives a lot of reasons why this is so:

    Complex Factors Increase Risk

    High prevalence of HIV: The high prevalence of HIV among gay and bisexual men means MSM face a
    greater risk of being exposed to infection with each sexual encounter, especially as they get older. For young black MSM, partnering with older black men (among whom HIV prevalence is high) may also lead to increased risk.

    I'm guessing a lot of this is due to the early belief that AIDS was a gay disease, no one knew how it was transmitted, & who cared anyway. If one is starting with a large percentage of infection in a given population, it's not surprising that it will take time for that to change.

    Lack of knowledge of HIV status: Studies show that individuals who know they are infected take steps to protect their partners. Yet many MSM are unaware of their status and may unknowingly be transmitting the virus to others. Additionally, some MSM may make false assumptions or have inaccurate information about their partner’s HIV status. It is critical to ensure that sexually active MSM get tested for HIV at least annually, or more frequently as needed.

    Complacency about risk: Among young MSM in particular, complacency about HIV may play a key role in HIV risk, since these men did not personally experience the severity of the early AIDS epidemic. Additional challenges for many MSM include maintaining consistently safe behaviors over time, underestimating personal risk, and the false belief that because of treatment advances, HIV is no longer a serious health threat. We must reach each generation of MSM and develop programs that can help MSM remain uninfected throughout the course of their lives.

    Pointing out the need for continuing education about safe sex practices. And since many still think of AIDS as only a problem for gay men, just getting tested would mean for those folks would mean admitting to themselves that they are indeed gay. Denial is more than a river in Egypt.

    Social discrimination and cultural issues: For some MSM, social and economic factors, including homophobia, stigma, and lack of access to health care may increase risk behaviors or be a barrier to receiving HIV prevention services.

    Substance abuse: Some MSM use alcohol and illegal drugs, contributing to increased risk for HIV infection and other STDs. Substance use can increase the risk for HIV transmission through risky sexual behaviors while under the influence and through sharing needles or other injection equipment.

    Everything from marriage equality, repealing DADT (completely && finally!), to the recently passed FAIR Education Act will reduce homophobia & the now legal discrimination against LGBTs, which will very likely also reduce the infection rates. Additionally, substance abuse is often used to self-medicate depression, which may very well be at least due to dealing with rampant homophobia & legal discrimination.

  • 34. Sheryl_Carver  |  July 16, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    And also in the report:

    However, no information was obtained on the participants’ HIV status. The investigators acknowledge that this was a major weakness of the study.

    “We did not have data available on HIV infection, which is higher among gay men, and may have contributed to the significant association of cancer prevalence and sexual orientation,” write the authors. “HIV infection has been linked with certain cancers, both AIDS-defining cancers (Kaposi sarcoma and non-Hodgkin lymphoma) and non-AIDS-defining cancers, which are anal, lung, and testicular cancer and Hodgkin lymphoma.”

    So at least for gay men, a significant portion of the cancer rate may be due to AIDS, which may be due to factors listed on page 2 of the previous link Bob posted. See my reply above to that comment.

  • 35. Bob  |  July 16, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    No one said there were not reasons/causes. But what was said was there were no facts to support the statements made. There are more than enough facts to support the statements that "homosexuality has the highest rate of HIV/AIDS and other STDs, higher cancer rates, and earlier deaths. "

    So I am sure that you would support putting that in the textbooks as well?

  • 36. Ronnie  |  July 16, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    Save it for health class….. This has nothing to do with historical figures & history lessons….The only time HIV/AIDS should be mentioned in history class is talking about the stigmatization, "witch hunts", the lack of knowledge, & the neglect by the medical, science, & education fields up into the 1980's (which was taught in my high school without a law telling the teachers that they should) or a historical figure who despite being HIV positive, whether he/she was born with it or contracted it, has gone on to live a productive life & has made contributions to society just like anybody else has. The only stats ever mentioned in history classes are the estimated numbers of people who died, estimated numbers of people who fought, number of people who signed , etc, etc, etc…If students want to learn about medical & health statistics they will do that when they go to college to be doctors or any other field in the medical profession. The everyday pre-college student will learn what he/she needs to know in health class …but waving around cherry picked copy & pasted stats half-assed with the purpose of demonizing a diverse & wide group of people with generalized, unspecific, stereotypical, & biased demographic check lists is unacceptable & what the FAIR Act specifically prohibits. ok moving on……. 8 / …..Ronnie

  • 37. Bob  |  July 17, 2011 at 7:51 am

    I see you only want selective information disseminated to our kids. How unsurprising. Don't worry kids will get all the facts they need, you can count on it!

  • 38. Ronnie  |  July 17, 2011 at 8:00 am

    ROFL… nope… nowhere near what I said… nice try though… ok moving on………. 8 / …Ronnie

  • 39. Sheryl_Carver  |  July 17, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Ronnie,

    We do need to add a couple classes to all school curriculums, starting in 1st grade. One is reading & listening comprehension (age appropriate, of course!). Anti-equality people rarely seem to understand what we write or say, as demonstrated by Bob above.

    Another class that needs to be taught over & over again is LOGICAL THINKING! The anti-equality folks never seem to be able to manage that particular skill. Reading the history of all civil rights issues, from women's right to vote & other previously male-only rights, to segregation & other racial issues, to the current struggle for marriage equality & repeal of DADT, their rhetoric is all the same, just using different nouns. Their arguments pretty much consist of: "it's always been this way," "the bible says," & "society will collapse."

    The lack of these 2 skills explains why they can make so much noise, but lose in court.

  • 40. Sheryl_Carver  |  July 17, 2011 at 10:41 am

    We should give Bob some credit, though, He did use data & even supplied links to a reputable site. This is very unusual for those on the anti-equality side.

  • 41. peterga83  |  July 17, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    "You've Got To Be Carefully Taught" South Pacific. This seems to be the mantra of the conservative right.

  • 42. Elizabeth_Oakes  |  July 17, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    It's gotta be Irish Spring soap: "Manly, yes; but I like it too." :)

  • 43. Elizabeth_Oakes  |  July 17, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Um…I'm wondering where this school principal thinks milk comes from.

  • 44. Eric  |  July 18, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Your data also suggests that lesbian sex is safest sex.

  • 45. Michael in SF  |  July 18, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    That is in the textbooks. I remember learning that while I was being sexually brainwashed during sex ed in the 1990s. We were given all those facts, and taught how to protect ourselves. It was very mature and empowering.

    I think this SaveCalifornia twit wrongly assumes that every single lesson will now be about gay people. I imagine instead there will be a unit of lessons during high school social studies that lasts a couple of weeks about the modern struggle for equal rights (much like we see for black civil rights) which will mention cultural contributors like Oscar Wilde, activists like Harvey Milk, and point out the straight-washing of history which ignores stories like Alan Turing's. Doesn't that sound awful!

  • 46. David Henderson  |  July 18, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    But if some students aren't enrolled in the on-base school, the money allocated for those students wouldn't (and shouldn't) be going to that school anyway.

    It looks like the money is supposed to help areas which have lost taxable property value from exempt federal land. So shouldn't that funding still follow them off-base, whether it's a public school, a parochial school, or a non-parochial-but-still-private school, as long as it's in the same area affected by the loss of property taxes?

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