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Day 7 preview and more from Mayor Sanders

By Eden James

The American Foundation for Equal Rights, the organization that has funded the legal challenge to Prop 8 in this court case, announced in a press release that the following gentlemen will be taking the stand on Wednesday — Day 7 of the Prop 8 trial:

  • Ryan Kendall, a gay man who will testify about the “conversation therapy” he underwent in his youth and how he has been affected by discrimination
  • Gary M. Segura, Ph.D,Professor of American Politics in the Department of Political Science at Stanford University. He will testify about the relative political power of gays and lesbians as a class of citizens, and their level of political vulnerability.

The rest of AFER’s press release is below the fold, including comments by Mayor Jerry Sanders and his lesbian daughter Lisa at the daily post-trial press conference on Tuesday (as well as the YouTubed speech by Sanders shown at the trial on Tuesday). A staunch Republican and conservative, Sanders made this provocative point at the press event about the meaning of equality:

“I think denying marriage equality is just as wrong as telling blacks that they couldn’t use white-only drinking fountains. It’s government action that’s founded in prejudice,” Sanders said to reporters at the courthouse. “The first step towards equality in society is equality under the law.”

Longtime reporter Rex Wockner also attended the Sanders presser and has photos and quotes here.

It’s early morning on the west coast but no matter what time zone you’re in, feel free to use this as an Open Thread to discuss whatever is on your mind in relation to the trial. (more…)

117 Comments January 20, 2010

Liveblogging Daily Summary: Day 6

By Julia Rosen

We are back from the long holiday weekend and had a short day today, with Judge Walker adjourning early to deal with some other business.

Today Brian Leubitz liveblogged the morning, with Rick Jacobs taking over the duties for the afternoon.

Thanks to everyone who introduced themselves this morning in the welcome thread that now has more than 300 400 comments. Our Trial Trackers are amazing. The stories you have been sharing have been painful and inspiring to read.

We are now over 700,000 views, 5,000 comments and 80 blog posts in a week and a half. Just incredible.

The daily summary is below. All of the livebloggers today seemed to think that the defendants were hurting themselves with their line of questioning on the statistics during the cross-exams this afternoon. What do you think? How did the day go? (more…)

33 Comments January 19, 2010

Liveblogging Day 6: Part IV Afternoon session wraps up

By Rick Jacobs

[Final update of Day 6]

Boies: You said that better than looking at Netherlands for effects of ss marriage in US is to look at other US states.

B: Yes.

Boies: Massachusetts shows a pretty steady decline of marriage from 2000-2007. Chart shows that marriage rate actually increased after May 17 2004 when ss couples could marry. And Mass rate of decline in marriage is lower than nation.

B: Divorce rate has actually declined since passage of marriage in Mass at a greater rate than in the US, where divorce rates also have declined since 2000. (more…)

101 Comments January 19, 2010

The Unspoken Word: DOMA

by Brian Leubitz

As Professor Badgett is undergoing a grueling and prolonged cross-examination, it seems the words that dare not speak their name are “Defense of Marriage Act.” The defense team certainly isn’t saying them as they go through oodles and noodles and oodles of mind-numbing numbers, and the plaintiff’s side doesn’t really seem that interested in bringing the subject up. After all, they aren’t litigating DOMA, they are focused on Prop 8. But the silent hand of DOMA is playing a part.

Just take a look at the pocketbook. On at least one occasion during Prof. Badgett’s testimony, the defense attorney asked about why domestic partners would de-register before AB 205 went into effect. If you’ll recall from the liveblogging, AB 205 was the legislation that gave DPs the same basic rights as marriage under state law. This is where DOMA comes in, and was vaguely alluded to during testimony.

So, as one of the 18,000 couples who were married, I will personally testify to the agony of filing taxes under a community property regime while living in a nation that does not recognize said marriage. We had to file a slew of tax forms, fake tax forms, federal and state. It was a mess, with a multitude of tax ramifications, depending on how we filled selected to file at the state level, but then ignored at the federal level. After all that, I would consider myself, and my husband, as one of the group of people who would be willing to get married, but not get a Domestic Partnership.

And I would completely understand those that got into a domestic partnership when it essentially meant very little who decided when community property was thrown into the mix that it just wasn’t worth it. DOMA may not be the issue in this case, but it makes a big difference to those that are living these decisions.

23 Comments January 19, 2010

Liveblogging Day 6: Part III Afternoon session begins

By Rick Jacobs

1:33PM we’re back.

We continue cross by Charles Cooper (C) for Prop. 8 of Prof. Lee Badgett (B) of the Williams Institute at UCLA.

Looking at a document by Gary Gates of Williams Institute. Looking at first bullet point in executive summary. Looking at decline in number of same sex couples in US from 2006-2008 according to US census.

Badgett: Here’s why. When a same sex couple says that one of the parties is a husband or wife of the other person. The concern here is that some of these might be different sex couples who marked the wrong box. Census tried to reduce the number of inadvertent marks to the same sex box. So they changed the form, instead of complex, so streamlined it. Each individual in the household is marked in reference to another. Sometimes respondents made mistake on form, tried to correct. Previously, Census would take first checked box (i.e., when someone marked male and female they would previously have taken first box checked). Now, they have changed coding and tried to check for errors and determine intent.

[Precisely what Bush v. Gore did not allow in 2000!] (more…)

114 Comments January 19, 2010

Liveblogging Day 6, Part II

by Brian Leubitz

Lee Badgett (L), research director., PhD in Economics from Cal

David Boies (D) examination.

B: Starts with basics. Offers documents into evidence. Defense objects to some of them.

Back from 15 minute recess.

B: Hav e you written articles?

L: Yes, I’ve written a number of articles about same-sex marriage. I’ve written 2 books about marriage equality, and edited a third one. One called “When Gay People Get Married”

D: Admit the book into evidence. In 2008, did you co-author any materials relating to same-sex marriage.

L: Yes. I probably authored quite a few, some related to California. A colleague and I estimated the fiscal impact of allowing gay marriage on California budget.

D: In 2005, did you author a similar article on the effect of marriage equality on the budget?

L: Yes.

D: Have you been invited to speak at other universities.

L: I’ve been invited by many universities at many institutions around the nation and world. She lists lots of schools… I’ve also given talks at law schools…lists schools. Foreign schools…lists schools. All on the subject of marriage for same-sex couples. (more…)

142 Comments January 19, 2010