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Courage’s Rick Jacobs tells Stop SB 48 campaign to stop the lies

FAIR Education Act

By Adam Bink

First it was their video last week. Then on Sunday, it was their signature-gatherers. Then, yesterday, it was their e-mail and website.

What’s in common? It’s all the same “this will teach kids how to be gay, at times when it’s not age-appropriate.”

We know it’s a lie. But the California public doesn’t. And it’s the same playbook that works, which is why we at Courage are especially fired up to do something about it.

Today, Courage’s Rick Jacobs sent a letter to Paulo Sibaja with the Stop SB 48 campaign telling him to cut it out. You can find the letter here. We have to educate the public on what the opposition is saying and why it’s false, while at the same time calling out our opponents and refuting signature-gatherers on the ground.

A press release is below.

 

Courage Campaign

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: August 23, 2011

Courage Campaign Urges the “Stop SB 48” Campaign to Stop Using Misinformation and Fear Tactics

Grassroots Organization Sends a Letter to Paulo Sibaja, “Stop SB 48” Proponent

Los Angeles – Rick Jacobs, chair and founder of the Courage Campaign, sent a letter to Paulo Sibaja of the Stop SB 48 campaign Monday asking that the conservative group stop giving out inaccurate information about the FAIR Education Act’s (SB 48) true intent.

To view a copy of the letter, please click here.

The law requires California schools to integrate lessons about social movements, current events and the social contributions of lesbian and gay individuals into existing social studies lessons.

On the Stop SB 48 website and in a newsletter sent from their campaign Monday, proponents erroneously claim:

SB 48 will teach children as young as five to not only accept but also endorse transgenderism, bisexuality, and homosexuality through our social sciences curriculum including history, history books and instructional materials. It also requires teachers and administrators to enter into the divisive debate over sexual orientation and morality and to portray only one side of that debate. Essentially teachers and administrators are being asked not to tolerate but to advocate.”

In no way, shape or form does this law have anything to do with sex education, and it certainly does not teach homosexuality to kindergartners,” said Rick Jacobs, chair and founder of the Courage Campaign, a 700,000-member, grassroots progressive organization based in California. “That’s just overblown, anti-gay rhetoric. Teachings are age-appropriate and factual. It’s ridiculous to interpret this as five-year-olds being taught sex ed or about the Stonewall Riots, which sparked the gay rights movement. Lessons will be developed at the local level so teachers and parents can decide what’s appropriate for each classroom.”

The conservative group is gathering signatures for a ballot referendum to overturn the law that was signed by Gov. Jerry Brown on July 14, 2011.

Courage Campaign has joined with other California progressive organizations to educate the public and run a decline-to-sign campaign.

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Courage Campaign is a multi-issue online organizing network that empowers more than 700,000 grassroots and netroots supporters to work for progressive change and full equality in California and across the country. Through a one-of-a-kind online tool called Testimony: Take A Stand, the Courage Campaign is chronicling the sights, sounds and stories of LGBT families and all who wage a daily struggle against discrimination across America. For more information about Testimony, please visit, http://www.couragecampaign.org/Testimony.

133 Comments

  • 1. Alan_Eckert  |  August 23, 2011 at 2:27 pm

  • 2. marcelk  |  August 23, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    All right wingers are liars and lies are their tools … it's part of the very essence of right wingism.

  • 3. 415kathleenk  |  August 23, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    great letter from RIck. The term 'deaf ears' comes to mind though. 🙁

  • 4. Adam Bink  |  August 23, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    Thanks. And perhaps, but there are more purposes of publicizing this than to get Paulo and co. to change their behavior.

  • 5. DaveP  |  August 23, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Indeed! We are now entering a new phase of the fight for equal rights, in which one of our best weapons is our enemy's own words and tactics, and the fact that the public now as little tolerance for blatant lies and hateful comments. We need to take advantage of this and bring their shenanigans to the attention of the mainstream media, over and over again, until the general public finally gets good and fed up with their hate and lies and starts shouting them down as much as WE all do.

  • 6. grod  |  August 24, 2011 at 5:09 am

    @DaveP
    Agree, can you suggest ways to address their use of children to kindle the publics' fears and apprehensions?

  • 7. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Part 1
    Unfortunately, what will WORK is not the best way to go. But what would work is scare tactics right back at them.

    Show kids in a classroom learning diversity. Show them happy and healthy at home and at school, at their various churches. Show them growing up to be good parents, good citizens, good people.

    Then show kids, home schooled and learning about "Christian" subjects, and at some right wing church being taught that God hates fags. Show parents protesting anything that resembles diversity and tolerance in education. Show them burning textbooks. Show Maggie and Brian saying ANYTHING that they say. Show those kids becoming bullies, turning into bigoted adults, shouting vile things at people getting married, carrying signs with nooses on them, etc.. Show a picture of a KKK rally.

  • 8. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Part 2
    Point out that a well rounded, sound education is important for turning out well rounded, sound people. Tag line "Learning about diversity does not make kids homosexual. Learning that intolerance and bigotry are acceptable DOES make kids into intolerant bigots. Who do you want your kids to grow up to be?"

    It is their scare tactics turned around on them. And will likely piss them off. And if they point out that they ARE scare tactics and we should quit it, we should say "we will when you do, but know that OUR points are actually valid."

  • 9. DaveP  |  August 24, 2011 at 10:38 am

    And AnonyGrl for the win! She beat me to it. These are great examples. The ads could depict intolerant legislators tearing sections out of text books – 'no need to tell the kids about Martin Luther King Jr… We dont' want them asking about Harvey Milk… Don't confuse them by explaining who Rosa Parks was…."

  • 10. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 11:10 am

    The frightening thing is that we could use ACTUAL stock footage for all of this, no need to script and set up anything.

  • 11. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    So lie in other words?

  • 12. LCH  |  August 23, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Thank you Rick. I would like to offer an example that this letter won't necessarily fall on deaf ears. I had been engaging Karen England, who is the Executive Director of Capital Resource Institute, the organization astroturfing the repeal effort, on their Facebook page (until I got kicked off and my comments scrubbed.) I called her out on the lie posted on their website that California can't afford to buy text books for the new curriculum. I pointed out that textbooks won't be available for purchase until 2015, as a result they scrubbed that lie from their website. Of course they've put up something else in their place.

    One other interesting tidbit I gleaned from my research is that not all conservatives are happy with the Capital Resource Institute, it seems some of them think CRI pocketed way too much money during the Prop8 effort, money that should have gone to a common pot. Some suspect that StopSB48 is another money scam. Hmm might explain why their FB page has only about 850 followers.

  • 13. Adam Bink  |  August 23, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Very interesting!

  • 14. Ronnie  |  August 23, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    "this will teach kids how to be gay"…How exactly do you teach someone to be gay? "Is it like French?"…… ROFLMGAO………… ; ) …Ronnie

  • 15. AnyaAngie  |  August 23, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Anytime someone makes a comment like that, that's the first thought that comes to my mind and mouth too, Ronnie *snuggles* Great minds think alike huh? *grin*

  • 16. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 6:22 am

    Indeed…………… ; ) …Ronnie

  • 17. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  August 24, 2011 at 9:00 am

    I had to 'learn' it all on my own 🙁
    French and Greek 😉

  • 18. Alan_Eckert  |  August 24, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Dirty boy!

  • 19. erasure25  |  August 23, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Something is very wrong with the moral fabric of our Country when the so-called religious people spout blatant lies. In the UK, wasn't a politician forced to resign because he was caught lying during his election campaign? We definitely get out in front of this and expose all of the lies by these people and keep hammering these people as nothing but liars.

  • 20. grod  |  August 24, 2011 at 5:38 am

    @erasure25: “So-called Religious People Spouting Blatant Lies” Indeed it goes deeper than adherents – the faithful; because spouting lies is also done by religious faiths or their affiliates, proxies. Adam, I think we need to ask this question to leaders of religious faiths that are more open minded, if not supportive. In my view, as civil marriage equality becomes the norm, as it is here in Canada, and these lies to the faithful become self-evident, the credibility of the leaders/faiths will be severely under minded.

  • 21. Sagesse  |  August 23, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    This is very hard to read.

    NEW DETAILS: Witnesses said they heard beating victim taunted

    Read More: http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/new-details-witn

  • 22. Sagesse  |  August 23, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Independence Party to campaign against anti–gay marriage amendment
    http://minnesotaindependent.com/86589/independenc

  • 23. Sagesse  |  August 23, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Family Council, NOM: Lobbyist complaint is harassment
    Common Cause: Campaign board ruling exposes 'giant loophole' in lobbying law
    http://minnesotaindependent.com/86527/family-coun

  • 24. Doug  |  August 23, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    The Wall Street Journal is reporting yet another benefit that marriage affords, a benefit that is denied to same sex couples in most states. The recent tragic events at the Indiana State Fair have brought this benefit into sharp focus.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903

  • 25. Sagesse  |  August 23, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Something that could be taught under the Fair Education Act.

    Bayard Rustin, organizer of the March on Washington, was crucial to the movement
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/bay

  • 26. karen in kalifornia  |  August 23, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Great letter Mr Jacobs….that's what I mean….this calling them on their lies is a better education for those unawares than decline to sign. Thank you.

  • 27. Sagesse  |  August 23, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    This is sweet.

    San Francisco judge may allow recording of Prop. 8 hearing

    Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/news/california/2011/08

  • 28. Sheryl_Carver  |  August 24, 2011 at 7:14 am

    Yea! Let's hope Judge Ware allows broadcast of his hearing AND releases the tapes of the original trial!

  • 29. Sagesse  |  August 23, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Hmmmm. Another essay from Scotusblog.

    The right to marry, and the right to remain married
    http://www.scotusblog.com/2011/08/the-right-to-ma

  • 30. Gregory in SLC  |  August 24, 2011 at 5:43 am

    The content of this essay weighs heavily on my thoughts….as we are one of those married couples whose marriage became invalidated the moment we crossed the state line and came back to our long-time home of Utah, where most all of our family, jobs, support system reside. EVERY day I ponder about having to abandon this support-system after DOMA falls so we can live in a state that acknowledges our marriage. It is a daunting task to start over in your career and try to figure out a feasible way to remain close to children and other family! Hoping for a Loving vs. Decision to allow our marriage to be recognized in every state.

    Perhaps it will take a decision like Williams v. North Carolina to make marriage (and divorce) recognized nation wide:
    @ Today’s state of affairs for same-sex marriages is oddly similar to what the Court confronted almost seventy years ago with divorce. In Williams v. North Carolina, it held that once a divorce is effective in one state, it must get full faith and credit in every other state. In doing so, the Court overturned an older decision that involved a man who had been validly divorced in one state but was still legally married in another – essentially the same absurd situation same-sex couples face today.

  • 31. Sagesse  |  August 24, 2011 at 5:00 am

    DOMA has to go.

    A new era of litigation: The complications of defining spouse
    http://www.keennewsservice.com/2011/08/23/a-new-e

  • 32. Sagesse  |  August 24, 2011 at 5:17 am

    Another example of religious fundamentalists grasping at any scientific dissent (this time on climate change, but see also evolution or social science research on sexual orientation) in support of 'faith'.

    Despite Rick Perry, consensus on climate change keeps strengthening
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/po

  • 33. Gregory in SLC  |  August 24, 2011 at 6:05 am

    Poor study used to defend DOMA gets worse:
    http://holybulliesandheadlessmonsters.blogspot.co

  • 34. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 6:21 am

    Sandra Bernhard Tells Young LGBT People to Never Be Ashamed or Embarrassed http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/08/2

    "Sandra Bernhard says never having to be ashamed or embarrassed about who you are is the beauty of being in the 21st century, in a new video for the Trailblazer Project.

    Bernhard tells viewers that she's always been open and confident about who she is and that anytime they're feeling funky there's a whole network of people to reach out to, including her."

    Here is her video for the Trailblazer Campaign……………. <3…Ronnie:
    [youtube 22lBRx5kkt4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22lBRx5kkt4 youtube]

  • 35. JoeRH  |  August 24, 2011 at 6:48 am

    If this letter was only sent to this Paulo fellow, I have no doubts he shared it with his close buddies and then threw it away. There's no way they will tell people the truth otherwise they'd be forfeiting their anti-gay pleasures. This needs to be sent to TONS of people. I hope you guys branch off on this instead of just telling the leader of a stupid group who most likely would share it only with his closest minions, laughing and blowing it off.

  • 36. dwpiper  |  August 24, 2011 at 8:35 am

    It strikes me that a good way to combat the homophobic "It will teach our children it's ok to be gay!" battle cry would be for notable spokespeople to do public advertising spots saying *exactly that* – "It IS ok to be gay." How many people might reconsider their views – and how many kids struggling with themselves might be encouraged – if people like oh, the Episcopal Bishops in California and other pro-equality faith leaders, the spokespersons for the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Psychoanalytic Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the Child Welfare League of America, and the North American Council on Adoptable Children could all be persuaded to do it?

  • 37. Maggie4NoH8  |  August 24, 2011 at 8:47 am

    How about an "It IS better" project… Wherein people submit their thoughts/comments on the before/after coming out? Especially the parents and friends of LGBT persons…

    From that – footage could be pieced together with a strong message of: it OK to be gay, and it IS better living truth in your life vs. denial.

  • 38. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 10:42 am

    What lies?

  • 39. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 11:20 am

    I assume you are referring to the original post…

    The lies are that kids in kindergarden will be taught about homosexual sex and exposing kids to historical figures who happen to also be homosexual, and mentioning that, will make your kids homosexuals. The lies that the Stop SB 48 are using to try to continue to marginalize and exclude homosexuals.

    Some people were homosexual, some were female, some were Chinese, some spoke French, some had red hair… and those traits made them who they were, inform us as to why they did what they did, have bearing on who they became historically. Just as it would be wrong to exclude the fact that Rosa Parks was black, or Marie Curie was female, it would be wrong to exclude the fact that Oscar Wilde and Harvey Milk were homosexuals.

  • 40. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 11:38 am

    I don't see where it says that it will make kids homosexual. Another lie from your side?

    But where is the lie in this petition?

    BTW SB 48 will never actually come to fruition. The truth always wins out!

  • 41. Alan_Eckert  |  August 24, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Bob, it's not the petition, but the people who are trying to convince others to sign the petition (and eventually vote for it). They are using lies to support their message.

    Also, what is the "truth" that you refer to? I'd like some more information please.

  • 42. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  August 24, 2011 at 11:49 am

    You are so right Bob…the truth does always win out. Soon EVERYONE will know the truth…the truth that those who claim to be followers of Christianity are guilty of lying in the name of God. Breaking one of the 10 Commandments
    #9 Thou shall NOT bear false witness (Lie)

  • 43. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Once again what lies?

  • 44. Alan_Eckert  |  August 24, 2011 at 11:58 am

    I'll answer yours if you answer mine. The petition itself does not have any lies. If you read the text, it plainly states that the people signing are for putting it on the ballot. We are not saying the petition itself has lies, but the process to garner signatures is full of lies. Look at the title of this post: "Courage's Rick Jacobs tells Stop SB 48 campaign to stop the lies." It clearly says the campaign, not the working on the petition. If I were to approach you with this petition and told you that the world was going to end if you did not sign it, the lie would be what I said, not what was written on the petition. Do you see the difference?

    When it comes to campaigning later, the coming advertisements will also have lies. This is inevitable. The wording of the ballot measure may not be a lie, but the way people are trying to convince you to sign or vote for it are riddled with lies and misdirection.

    Now. What "truth" do you mean?

  • 45. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    What lies are they saying and where is the proof of anyone lying?

    But since you kind of answered my question (thanks for being truthful that the petition is all factual) I will answer yours:

    The truth that SB 48 is an attempt to push an agenda in our schools that does not belong there. That's why it will be defeated.

  • 46. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    That's a lie……….. OTIO…….. 8 / …Ronnie

  • 47. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Ohh good one you must be proud!

  • 48. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn…………………. ( : | …Ronnie

  • 49. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Batting 1000 I see… well done! If your the best then its no contest!

  • 50. Alan_Eckert  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    "SB 48 will sexualize children." -Matt Barber

    Absolute lie.

    Please expand on a couple points for me if you will.
    1) What is the agenda you are claiming is being pushed?
    2) Why does said agenda (your definition is to what I'm referring) not belong?

  • 51. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    That's not a lie. It might be an overreaction but no lie! There is ZERO reason to discuss sexuality or even mention it until kids are pubesecent. And then it should be only about protection and prevention.

    Your answers:
    1. Normalize that which is not normal nor healthy
    2. See above.

  • 52. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    I see you believe that if you say something enough it makes it true. Well done!

  • 53. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    More lies………… 8 / …Ronnie

  • 54. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    Sigh. Homosexuality IS normal. It is a normal part of the biological spectrum. As to healthy, you would need to provide information there which is accurate and has not been debunked.

    However, in general, health is considerably improved when one is not constantly being told that one is wrong, evil, unhealthy, abnormal, going to hell, etc. for being who you are. This is according the American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, The American Medical Association and others.

  • 55. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    Actually evolution tells us that its a mutation that will be ultimately be mutated out of existence. So I guess its a normal part of the biological system in that regard.

    I agree telling someone those things takes its toll but so will lying to them telling them its perfectly ok.

  • 56. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Nobody is lying to them & it is ok….. PERIOD!!!…. What is not ok is you coming in here with your repugnant inhuman superiority complex telling people, including children, that they are "not normal" & that it is "not ok" to be who they are or that their families are somehow inferior to your fascist idea of who & what constitutes a "family"…… GTFOYS….. 8 / ….Ronnie

  • 57. dwpiper  |  August 24, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Honestly, I cannot fathom how you can expect to be taken seriously, since you contradict yourself whenever it seems convenient in order for you to think you've scored a "point".

    If you believe that homosexuality is a mutation, then you must logically also conclude that homosexuals do not choose to be gay, and therefore that it is not simply a "preference".

    I'm done talking to you.

  • 58. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Mutated out of existence? How do you figure that one?

    It is not lying to tell them it is perfectly ok. It IS perfectly ok to be who you are.

  • 59. dwpiper  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Yes, Bob. You are correct.

    There is a vast, radical gay agenda whose purpose is to educate people to the fact that (a) LGBT people have existed throughout human history, and (b) some of them have made worthwhile accomplishments and worthwhile contributions.

    Oh, the horror! Not.

  • 60. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    I agree but why is mentioning their sexual preference necessary?

  • 61. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Nobody is mentioning sexual "preference"…..ok moving on……. 8 / …Ronnie

  • 62. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Thanks for another non answer.

  • 63. dwpiper  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    I *prefer* chocolate ice cream over vanilla ice cream. I *prefer* whole milk over low fat milk. I do not *prefer* men over women as sex partners – I am simply not "turned on" by women. Not a choice, not a question of preference.

    Tell me: Do you, yourself, simply *prefer* women over men as sex partners, but if no woman was available and willing a man would do? Or are you not at all turned on by men?

  • 64. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    I prefer women but if myself and a man where the only ones left on the earth who knows….

    Preference!

  • 65. dwpiper  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Then *you* may be bisexual, with a strong preference for women.

    Some people, on the other hand, are not. Some are solely heterosexual (no preference involved), solely homosexual (no preference involved), or asexual (definitely no preference involved). Or to put it another way: the Kinsey Scale runs 0 (solely heterosexual) to 6 (solely homosexual). Only those who are 1 through 5 on the scale would have any choice – hence any preference.

  • 66. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    That's a fallacy. Some people in prison are not bisexual they simply have no other choice.

    Kinsey? Really? Oh dear!

  • 67. dwpiper  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    I referenced the "Kinsey Scale", not Kinsey himself, and did so only to illustrate that there is a sliding scale of human sexuality (which may or may not be perfectly captured on the Kinsey Scale, but that's irrelevant to my point).

    As for your example of prison sexuality – has it occurred to you that consensual prison sex *is* in fact a choice? They could just as well have chosen *not to*, to have gone without partnered sex. Perhaps it's merely evidence that bisexuality is far more common than thought, and that necessity overcomes learned inhibitions.

    Further, you yourself said "who knows" if only you and another man were left on earth. Do note that you did not rule it out completely.

  • 68. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    Exactly prison sex, not all the time because rape occurs, is a choice just like non-prison sex.

    I am pretty certain that I will never be on of two people left on the earth so really the point is moot.

  • 69. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Where are the lies in the petition is my question.

  • 70. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Then lies we refer to (and you KOW it) are the lies being told to coerce people to sign.

  • 71. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Once again where are the lies? Show me, show anyone if you can.

    No one needs to be lied to in order to get this petition through. it stands on it's merits alone.

    SB 48 will never happen.

  • 72. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo…asked & answered…brick wall ducks……… 8 / …Ronnie

  • 73. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Another non answer form the gallery! So proud!

  • 74. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    If no one needs to be lied to, why are so many of the people pushing it lying? Why are so many of the "talking points" revolving around the concept that children in kindergarden are going to be introduced to homosexual sex? That is not, nor has it ever been, any part of the focus of this legislation. Why don't the people who are gathering signatures say "We don't want this bill to stand because we think children should never be taught about anyone who is or was homosexual"? That would be the truth. But to say "Your kids are going to be taught about homosexuality in kindgergarden" is not.

    What, exactly, are the merits of the petition, by the way, other than to discriminate against homosexuals by continuing to marginalize them and deny their historic achievements?

  • 75. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Whats stopping from someone under this bill from deciding that it should be taught in Kindergarten? The answer is no one. All it takes is some educational activist to push it through.

    Believe me or don't… this bill as is will never see the light of day!

  • 76. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn….. ( : | …Ronnie

  • 77. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    You will yawn your way along as SB 48 is eliminated. Well done!

  • 78. Adam Bink  |  August 24, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Bob, for the sake of discussion, I'll answer. As Alan wrote above, the campaign is the recipient of the letter, not the petition, nor the petition gatherers.

    The campaign's website states "Implementing SB 48 would require the use of extensive taxpayer dollars to review, revise, and adopt curriculum with an eye to promoting a political agenda instead of with an eye to promoting successful education." This is false. Periodically, the State Board of Education updates its education standards and textbooks. The next update is set for 2015 and any changes to textbooks because of the FAIR Education Act will be made as a part of that regularly scheduled update.

    The campaign asserts "SB 48 requires all public schools — including charter schools — to include positive discussions of the sexual orientations of transgender, bisexual, and gay Americans in all social science courses. The sponsors have repeatedly asserted that SB 48 mandates this provocative material for California students in all grades from K-12." This is also false. Age-appropriate lessons will be taught with regard to history. School districts, including parents and teachers, have a say in the social science lessons. These are two simple examples of lies told by the Stop SB 48 campaign operatives.

    We welcome other points of view at P8TT, but continued responses consisting of "where are the lies in the petition" without responding to the point made that the lies are by the campaign will result in your comments being moderated. Reasonable dialogue means both sides must be reasonable.

  • 79. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    If by reasonable you mean everyone has to agree with you then I guess this board is simply "a pompous, self-congratulatory discussion where little to no progress is made"

    Those are not lies! SB 48 will require extensive tax dollars above and beyond what is already slated to be spent haggling over what information is appropriate for what ages. So no lie there.

    SB 48 does require positive discussions of sexual orientation in all grades. So no lie there.

    So where are the actual lies

  • 80. Adam Bink  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Bob,

    To what sources do you credit evidence for these assertions?

  • 81. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Nope, wrong again, they are all lies….. & LGBT people pay taxes also so that is a moot point… your question was answered…. ok moving on…… 8 / …Ronnie

  • 82. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Yes and LGBT folks benefit from the spending of tax dollars every day like the erst of us.

  • 83. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Yes… the DOMA cases in the courts right now make it completely obvious how we benefit EXACTLY the same way that you do…<eyeroll>

    I suggest dropping this line of argument immediately.

  • 84. Bob  |  August 25, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Nonsense everyone benefits from there tax dollars through defense, infrastructure, ect….

    And as far a SS couples in a lifelong committed relationship you will also receive the same government benefits that married do when finally civil unions are expanded to include them. So sorry if that's not going to be good enough, it will have to do.

  • 85. Ronnie  |  August 25, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Nope, wrong again….. 8 / ….Ronnie

  • 86. AnonyGrl  |  August 26, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    We will get them sooner, and much easier, when marriage is expanded to include us. It will cause less fuss and less time and money (which it would seem would make you happier) to simply allow same sex marriage than to continue to attempt to legislate against it.

    And every day that we are NOT afforded the same rights, but still taxed so that YOU can have benefits, is a day that proves we are NOT getting equal treatment under the law.

    So we will continue to work towards equality for all. Sorry if that upsets you, but it will have to do.

  • 87. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    On what do you base your assertion that positive discussions of sexual orientation will occur?

    On what do you base your assertion that monies above and beyond will be spent to update and include all persons of historical significance?

    Where is your proof of this? Or is this just what you believe will happen?

  • 88. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Unless every discussion includes that the ideal family is man + woman + child then it will be represented in a positive light by default.

    Secondly if you don't think that opinions will differ on what to mention, when and how and that those lengthy discussions wont eat up man hours than you are naive or not living in reality.

  • 89. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    "that the ideal family is blah blah blah"…… LIE!!!…… 8 / …Ronnie

  • 90. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    Bob, the ideal family consists of at least two people who love and care for each other. That family might be two adults, or an adult and a child. It might also be two adults of the same sex, and children or not. It might be two adults of opposite sexes, and children or not.

    The ideal family is not a cookie cutter mom and pop and 2.5 kids.

  • 91. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Part 1

    What extensive tax dollars, if haggling is already scheduled? How will it cost more to discuss Harvey Milk than it does to discuss Rosa Parks?

    I am fairly sure that sexual orientation will not be discussed at all grade levels. People who are homosexual will be. There is a HUGE difference. People who are heterosexual are already discussed, and no one says to a kindergardner "This is a story by Dr. Seuss! He is a straight man who slept with women!" When it is AGE APPROPRIATE to do so, the information that certain people who are NO LONGER BEING LEFT OUT of the text books were homosexual will be introduced. The fact that they were homosexual is an important part of the picture, and will be introduced when appropriate.

  • 92. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Part 2

    However, introducing the concept that sometimes a family consists of two mothers or two fathers is completely appropriate at all grade levels. A 5 year old is not being told about homosexual sex, nor do they CARE at that age. They are simply learning that not all families are the same. When, in kindergarden, a story is told about a family with a mother and a father, no one thinks that the child is being indoctrinated to heterosexual sex at that point. SEX is not the issue. But those children may well know someone with two mothers, and it is completely appropriate for them to understand that this is legal, acceptable and ok.

    If you want to tell your kids it is icky, please feel free to do so on your own time. If you want to tell them that blacks are inferior or Mexicans are stupid or women should be barefoot and pregnant, you can do that at home too. In schools, equality should be taught.

  • 93. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Have I told you today how much I dearly LOVE you?!?!
    🙂

  • 94. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Nope, but you do know that it is mutual, right??? 🙂

  • 95. Mark Mead-Brewer  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    But of course my dear. 🙂

  • 96. dwpiper  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Me too. 🙂

  • 97. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Right back at you! 🙂

  • 98. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    I have no problem with mentioning the fact that there are alternative families out there as long as its also mentioned that the ideal family is man + woman + child.

    No one thinks that heterosexuality is being indoctrinated because that's the way nature intended it so there is no reason to question it.

  • 99. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    You just go believing that! Its perfect when the other side moves forward in ignorance!

  • 100. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    "ideal family is blah blah blah blah"…..LIE!!!!

    "Blah blah blah blah because that's the way nature intended"…….. LIE!!!!

    Ok moving on…………. 8 / …Ronnie

  • 101. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    The ideal family is the one you are in, if it is a loving, caring family. Whether you have one mom or two, or none, doesn't make it IDEAL. Love makes it ideal. Caring makes it ideal. Sharing and helping and supporting and looking out for each other, all of that makes it ideal. The sex of the parents is not what makes a family ideal.

  • 102. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    Discussing costs nothing but if you think that this process will be smooth and not require more man hours, more money than you are being naive.

    So dos this mean that very historical figure will be have their sexual preference in print? If not why not? I only see homosexuality as relevant in homosexual history. If the bill said that homosexuality was to be mentioned only in when the topic was about homosexuality or homosexual rights would that be ok with you?

  • 103. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Again….Nobody is talking about sexual "preference"….. brick wall ducks….. 8 / …Ronnie

  • 104. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Again a non answer from you. No surprise!

  • 105. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    No, Bob… that would not be ok, and that is not the POINT.

    If you talk about MLK Jr, do you mention the fact that he was black? Of course you do, because it has bearing on the issue. Do you mention that Plato was Greek? Do you mention that Marie Curie was a woman?

    This bill is NOT about telling children Harvey Milk and Alan Turing were homosexual. It IS about making sure they learn that Harvey Milk and Alan Turing EXISTED and what their contributions were. It happens that in both of their cases, the fact that they WERE homosexual is an important part of their histories. However, simply BECAUSE they and others WERE homosexual, they have been largely ignored in the teaching of history. This bill seeks to correct that, to make sure that important figures are taught about and NOT left out because their sexuality makes bigots uncomfortable.

    So yes, I want kids to be taught about Alan Turing. I want them to know what his contributions were, and I want them to know what happened to him. I want kids to understand that Jews were not the only ones persecuted during the Holocaust, that political prisoners and gypsies and homosexuals and Jehovah's Witnesses were also put in concentration camps. I want them to read the works of Oscar Wilde and know how brave he was for the time he was living in. And part and parcel of all that is that they know these people were homosexuals.

    I am sorry that you, as you sit there and type on your computer, can't see how "homosexual history" has affected your life. Perhaps if you had learned a little about it in school, you would have a better grasp of the world you live in today.

  • 106. Bob  |  August 25, 2011 at 10:39 am

    I am fine with mentioning that they considered themselves homosexual if that's all that's mentioned. But we all know this is an activist bill that unless its narrowed simply will never happen.

  • 107. AnonyGrl  |  August 26, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Considered themselves homosexual?

    That implies that somehow you do not think they were homosexuals. Care to explain?

    And no, we don't "all know" that. We do know that you think so, but we don't agree that you are correct.

  • 108. JoeRH  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    I say leave Bob alone. He already perfectly described his interest here: a discussion where little to no progress is made. He has no interest in reading the responses, just waits for, I don't know, someone to side with his misinformation? In other words he's useless.

  • 109. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Well, yes, you are correct. But I have to say that the occasional rehearsal of these arguments that this sort of nonsense presents allows me to sharpen up and better explain things when a REAL discussion comes up, and I also think that some folks may come in to read up on this stuff for just that reason in their own lives, so I am happy to provide them with my thoughts on how this works. 🙂

    But yes, thinking that we will ever get through to Bob is probably a waste of time. I do hope he realizes that he is not getting through to us either, but also that this is mostly because of his lack of willingness (ability, perhaps?) to discuss and answer questions actually posed to him, or to read and respond to the answers given.

  • 110. bob  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    I am open to getting "through to" I am just waiting on any compelling evidence or truth.

    And no I don't expect anyone here to agree with anything I say as this blogs purpose simply attracts those that are like-minded. Thankfully you do ot represent the majority,

    SB 48 will never see the light of day and I promise I will not come back and say "I told you so."

  • 111. Ronnie  |  August 24, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Wash, rinse, repeat……. 8 / ….Ronnie

  • 112. DaveP  |  August 24, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Here's another example, Bob. At the end of WWII, when the Allies reached the concentration camps and freed the prisoners, not all of them were set free. The people wo were in the camps for the 'crime' of simply being gay were sent to other prisons, often without any form of trial, even though the war was over. Most of them died in the prisons. This is an example of some aspect of 'LGBT history' that might be taught in a history class as oen part of teh discussion about WWII. See? no discussion of 'gay sex' or anything else that you think is icky. Just a more accurate depiction of what happened at the end of WWII. Got it?

  • 113. Bob  |  August 25, 2011 at 10:38 am

    I was taught that homosexuals were persecuted in Nazi Germany. No need for a special bill to include it!

    As I said unless the bill is changed to clarify what and what not to include, it will not see the light of day.

  • 114. Ronnie  |  August 25, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwn….. ( : | …Ronnie

  • 115. AnonyGrl  |  August 24, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Bob, there has been a great deal of truth and evidence presented, but you, and your ilk, continue to ignore it. Studies have shown that children raised by gay parents do just as well as those raised by straight ones. States that have enacted marriage equality have seen DROPS in divorce rates. And kids who learn diversity in schools are more open minded and tolerant, but do not become homosexual in great, galloping numbers.

    Homosexuality is a normal part of human existence. In large part, the proscriptions against homosexuality are based fears of long dead bronze aged desert tribes who only knew that if they didn't have lots of children, their tribes would die out. Today, there is little fear of the human race dying out. But those fears stay for various reasons that would be tedious to recount here. However, they no longer apply, any more than the thought that women need to be owned or blacks are slaves applies. Fortunately, the world is moving towards sanity and realizing that making a people scapegoats for their homosexuality is no more sensible than making them scapegoats for their belief in Judaism or the color of their skin.

  • 116. Bob  |  August 25, 2011 at 10:36 am

    None of the "studies" that you refer to have the numbers or longevity to support that despite the wishful thinking of some. Alternately there are many studies that do support one man, one woman, child homes as the best for raising the kids.

    Homosexuality exists and if you mean that because it exists, its normal then you are correct. However if you were to take the accepted definition of normal then its not. Heterosexuality is the norm.

  • 117. Ronnie  |  August 25, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Nope, wrong again…. 8 / ….Ronnie

  • 118. Bob  |  August 25, 2011 at 11:31 am

    If that's all you got then we are in very good shape!

  • 119. Ronnie  |  August 25, 2011 at 11:48 am

    ROFLMGAO…… 8 / …Ronnie

  • 120. AnonyGrl  |  August 26, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    I will give you credit for pointing out the norm v. normal issue that most people get confused.

    You lose points however, for not understanding that one thing being more prevalent than the other does not make it better or worse. More people are right handed, but the left handed people are not better or worse. These are simply normal variations for which judgement values are not required. Heterosexuality is no better or worse than homosexuality, they are both normal.

    As to the studies, the ones that support one man/one woman are, specifically, measured against single parent households and do not touch on the issue of two same sex parent households at all. So I am afraid that the studies (scare quotes noted, nice try) to which I refer do hold greater weight when dealing with the issue of homosexual parents in that they actually DO SO.

  • 121. Martin Pal  |  August 25, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Part 1
    Bob is an example of a great deal of the electorate. They do not get that being gay is as natural for us as it is for some people to be left-handed. They only see us in terms of “sex.” They think if you mention that Alan Turing or Bayard Rustin is gay that you’d also have to think about sex acts, or bring it up. And you can usually tell the people who are more enlightened on this subject because they call us “gay.” Those who like to view us only through a sex prism call us homosexuals. Their ideas about us come from years of slow indoctrination about who and what gay people are. The memes that have evolved about us come from years of viewing us as all sorts of undesirable things. And these teachings have led many gay people to think of themselves that way. I was never told in all my years of school that anyone in the history books was gay. Even though I grew up less than a mile from a park and museum dedicated to a hero of the Revolutionary War, Baron von Steuben, who was gay. If I had known that one simple fact, it would have made a huge difference in my life.

  • 122. Martin Pal  |  August 25, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Part 2
    And let’s face facts. People like Bob simply aren’t willing to let “the truth” be told. The simple truth is that there are gay people now and have always been gay people, but Bob and people like Bob just don’t want that known. And why don’t they? Because they have been taught that we are any number of bad things. They believe that we are abnormal, that we were not born this way, that we actively go out and recruit children to be gay etc. The mere fact of stating that there were gay people in history is something they don’t want because it makes it harder for them to hate us. They have to look at us differently if they see that we contribute in enormous ways politically, artisticly, militarily, and in any other aspect of life. If they change the way they look at us then we would change, too. We’d be better off without the burdens of their stigmas and animus. We’d all grow better. But people like Bob don’t want that because they do not see us that way. The truth also is that children are never as naive or ill-informed as their parents think they are. And since gay people are not staying in the closet any more, they will keep coming out and children will see them. How can they not? How did children not see it when Ellen was on the covers of magazines saying she is gay and people watched her show on network television. Even if parents like Bob kept their children from watching it there were enlightened students who did and talked about it at school. 15 years later, all kids have to do is “google” something and they can find out about it.

  • 123. Martin Pal  |  August 25, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Part 3
    So, Bob’s posts are all about keeping gay people in the closet. And one of the tactics, whether they do it consciously or not, is to equate us strictly with sex as if their is no “being” in being gay and to link the thought of sex with children. It strikes me that people like Bob are fundamentally anti-American. They hate this country. They wrap themselves in the flag, but they hate America as it is. ..the America that embraces gay people, is multicultural, is a homogeneous society that seeks to incorporate all races and ethnic creeds into its culture. The America they love is the, quote, “Christian America” that they keep harping back to, that people like Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Sarah Palin, George W. Bush, etc., all want to take us back to. But it’s an America that never existed and certainly doesn’t now. People like Bob have a basic lack of patriotism that does not like the laws of the country, so they tell people to revolt. By referendum or worse. It’s hard to change the minds of people like Bob, but it can happen. Fortunately, we can point to survey after
    survey where the children of the people like Bob are not buying what they’re parents are selling.

  • 124. Martin Pal  |  August 25, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    LOL! That’s all “you” got? Reminds me of that old dialogue:

    “I resent that.”

    “Do you deny it?”

    “No, but I resent it!”

    In one sentence you have conveyed your own animus with an “us against them” mentality and the withering “is that all you’ve got” approach! Ooooooh, back to the closet for me, I guess!

    Bob, I’ll ask you specific questions: “What would have been so terrible if it had been mentioned in my New York State History class that Baron von Steuben was gay?” What if you had been told that? Please explain why learning about gay people in history is a bad thing? When you write “SB 48 will never actually come to fruition, the truth always wins out!” — what truth are you talking about? Discuss.

  • 125. Diana  |  September 28, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    The Yes on Prop 8 side is morally right! SB 48 should be stopped because it is a mistake to teach this to young children! It will only confuse them into disrespecting the bible. The Bible should be taught in school instead.

  • 126. Elizabeth_Oakes  |  September 28, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Send me your address, Diana…I 'd like to give you a copy of the U.S. Constitution, which is the moral and ethical code us real Americans live by. It says quite clearly that real Americans agree to separate church and state, and it also guarantees equal rights for everyone. When you'd like to behave like a real American, you'll be made to feel quite welcome here. Trolls however, can go Santorum themselves.

  • 127. Griffyn Elvyncraft  |  October 12, 2011 at 12:53 am

    What? It's a mistake to teach acceptance of others to children? And, how can a person disrespect a book? A book is an inanimate object, it can't be disrespected. Furthermore, if the Bible, (aka, Buy Bull) could be disrespected, it should be because it is a vile filthy work of literature. The Bible should never, ever be allowed in school. In fact, children should be protected from the bible at least until they are of a proper age. Would you put a porn magazine in the hands of a child? That's pretty much the same thing as putting a bible in their hands. Have you even read the bible? I MEAN REALLY READ IT? If so then you know children should never be subjected to that filth.

    The Bible is a horrible book filled with nothing but death, destruction, suffering, incest, rape, murder, human and animal sacrifice and much much more wretched, vile, horror. For example; In Exodus 32:26-29, Ezekiel 9: 5-7, Isaiah 13: 15-18, Numbers 31: 1-8, and Numbers 31: 25-41 the bible clearly demonstrates that its foul, disgusting, tyrant God likes genocide and commands certain people to commit it in his name. Zechariah 14:1-2 says that when the bible’s so called god arrives that people will die and women will be raped. Isn’t that just a lovely story that just screams “fit for children”? How about Deuteronomy 22:28-29 where it says its OK for women to be raped as long as the rapist pays the victims father fifty shekels of silver if he gets her pregnant. Isn’t that a fine lesson to be taught to young girls, that women are just objects of possession as far as the bible is concerned? What about Leviticus 25:44-46, Exodus 21:7, 1 Peter 2:18 & Exodus 21:20-21 where it states that god not only condones human slavery, but also encourages it and that it’s good to beat your slaves with a stick as long as they get up after a few days. Ahhh, great childhood lessons from the “holy” book. Oh, lets not forget the fact that god is a sick, demented, blood thirsty, vampire who demands human and animal blood and flesh sacrifices as clearly stated in Genesis 22:2-10, Exodus 12:29, Leviticus 1 and Numbers 31:25-29. How about Psalm 137:9 that says, “Blessed are those who takes your babies and smashes them against rocks!” Doesn’t that just make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside? Lets not forget either how Leviticus 15:19-31 commands that all women are to be removed from society during their period and for another 7 days after their period is over because they are unclean and anything they touch or sit or lie on must be cleansed of her uncleanness and then they are to take 2 turtles or 2 young pigeons to the priest to be sacrificed as atonement for their sin that they just had. So in other words the bible says that women are only allowed to come out about 2 weeks out of each month and the other 2 weeks they are to remain in exile because of the “Sin” coming out of their vaginas. Apparently god thinks girls have coodies.

    And you say the bible should be taught in schools? What kind of sick, twisted person are you? Or, maybe you’re a normal person, but you just have never actually read the bible and just blindly believe what others have told you about it without actually checking it out for yourself with critical thinking.

  • 128. Joshua Gaddis  |  October 6, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    I am completely heterosexual, a husband to my wife and a father of 4 wonderful and bright kids. I am also a conservative, but I am also a libertarian, a freethinker, and a lover of freedom and liberty. Maybe that's why I am such a strong Ron Paul supporter, but being a very scientifically oriented individual, I understand the mechanics and biology behind homosexuality and transgender. Unfortunately most people don't, especially the closed minded, arrogant and sometimes ignorant religious followers as well as those on the far right and the far left. No heterosexual just decides one day, "Oh, I think I'll be homosexual from now on." Just like no homosexual decides one day, "Ya know, I think I'll be attracted to the opposite sex from now on." The very idea is absolutely preposterous. All sexual orientation is what all life forms, including Humans, are born with. It's part of your DNA. It's chromosome deep. Whether you are Homosexual, Transgender, Bisexual or Heterosexual, that is the way you are born. If you're a man who's attracted to women, it's because you were born that way. If you're a man who's attracted to other men, it's because you were born that way.

    This fear mongered fabrication that a child or an adult for that matter can be taught or coerced to become sexually orientated to a way that is not how they were born is absurd. If your child is Homosexual, eventually they will know, in there own time and in their own way. If your child is Heterosexual, eventually they will know, in there own time and their own way, and no amount of exposure to a different form of sexuality is ever going to change that.

    Homosexuality is no more a learned way of being than being Heterosexual is or being Black, or Hispanic, or White, or Asian, or Naturally Blonde or Brunette, or being far sighted or near sighted, or being mathematically inclined or naturally musically talented. These are all ways people are born with.

    SB48 promotes education about homosexuality in history and Homosexual people who have contributed to society. It educates children about the importance of acceptance of people of different sexual orientation. It is no more or less important than the education of children in the acceptance of people of different color or race. What kind of person would teach their child to be accepting of a person with Down’s syndrome or autism but not to a person of color or a different race? What kind of person would teach their child not to be prejudice against red headed people but to go ahead and discriminate women? What kind of parent or teacher would teach children not to be prejudice or discriminate against Christians or Jews but not to accept people who are Homosexual? Of course, being a follower of a religion is not something you’re born with. Being religious is something you are taught, sometimes with the use of fear tactics and threats of hell if you don’t submit and follow. I’m sure you understand my point, however. The Stop SB48 people need to just stop. How can they preach about “morality” while simultaneously promoting discrimination and hate toward certain people because of the way they were born? That’s not moral and it’s certainly not God like as they would say. It’s hypocrisy and it’s wrong.

  • 129. Joshua Gaddis  |  October 9, 2011 at 10:42 am

    The "Stop SB48" petition is dangerous to society and to the development of our children. SB48 must be passed.
    SB48 clearly requires schools to implement material into the curriculum which will educate children about societal contributions of diversity, not only of homosexual people, but of any and all diversities including different races, religions, genders, disabilities, etc. SB48 also prohibits schools and teachers from teaching anything that promotes discrimination against or reflects adversely on these people.

    If the "Stop SB48" petition is successful and if SB48 is voted down in the elections it will undo the "Non-Discrimination Requirements for schools in California". This will allow teachings and educational materials that are discriminatory against women, disabled people, Homosexuals, Transgenders, Bisexuals, Blacks, Asians, Native Americans, Hispanics and others as well as people of certain religions including but not limited to Christianity. SB48 serves to protect all groups from discrimination and prohibits discriminatory teachings to our children against different groups. Is that really what people want?

    If you vote to stop SB48 you will be directly responsible for every child from then on being taught in schools that it is acceptable to discriminate against anyone of color, religious following, culture, creed, gender or sexuality. If you're a mother do you want your children being taught discrimination against women? If you're an African American do you want your child or any child to be taught to discriminate against Black people? If you’re a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim do you want your children's teachers to teach them how to slander or discriminate against your own religion? Think about that! SB48 protects you, your children and all people from discrimination and hate. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DO AWAY WITH THAT?

    SB48 must be passed in order to protect all people and groups from hate and discrimination.
    The following explains why:

    In BOLD print at the top of the petition to stop SB48 it reads;

    REFERENDUM TO OVERTURN NON-DISCRIMINATION REQUIREMENTS FOR SCHOOL
    INSTRUCTION. If signed by the required number of registered voters and filed with the Secretary of
    State, this petition will place on the statewide ballot a challenge to a state law previously approved by the
    Legislature and Governor. The law must then be approved by a majority of voters at the next statewide
    election to go into effect. The law would require school instructional materials to recognize societal
    contributions of various groups; and would prohibit school instructional materials that reflect adversely
    on persons based on their ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation and other characteristics. (11-0023.)

    Then in the body of the petition it states what the current SB48 law reads which is as follows;

    The full title and text of Chapter 569 are set forth as follows:
    An act to amend Sections 51204.5, 51500, 51501, 60040, and
    60044 of the Education Code, relating to instruction.
    SECTION 1. Section 51204.5 of the Education Code is amended
    to read:
    51204.5. Instruction in social sciences shall include the early history
    of California and a study of the role and contributions of both
    men and women, Native Americans, African Americans, Mexican
    Americans, Asian Americans, Pacific Islanders, European Americans,
    lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans, persons with disabilities,
    and members of other ethnic and cultural groups, to the economic,
    political, and social development of California and the United
    States of America, with particular emphasis on portraying the role of
    these groups in contemporary society.
    SEC. 2. Section 51500 of the Education Code is amended to read:
    51500. A teacher shall not give instruction and a school district shall
    not sponsor any activity that promotes a discriminatory bias on the
    basis of race or ethnicity, gender, religion, disability, nationality,
    sexual orientation, or because of a characteristic listed in Section 220.

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