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Herman Cain: I’ll overturn the Supreme Court if they overturn DOMA

DOMA trials

By Adam Bink

Uh, wow.

At the debate held at the First Federated Church in Des Moines, Iowa, the National Organization for Marriage (Inequality) president Brian Brown asked the Republican Candidates what they would do if the Supreme Court were to rule that DOMA is unconstitutional. Brown actually asked “If the Perry case or a DOMA case gets to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court were to overturn DOMA or to find a — quote — unquote — constitutional — a U.S. Constitutional right to same sex marriage, if you were president, what would you do?”

Cain then stated that “I would lead the charge to overturn the Supreme Court if they overturned DOMA. Whether that was new legislation coming out of the Congress like Rep. [Michele] Bachmann said. The United States Congress is supposed to pass laws so if they did overturn DOMA, that charge, I would lead to reverse that.”

It’s unclear if Cain meant he would (a) channel FDR and have a go at court-packing or (b) push a constitutional amendment. Either way, good luck with that, Herman.


  • 1. fiona64  |  November 21, 2011 at 11:03 am

    I guess that, among other things he fails to comprehend, Candidate Cain is a little underinformed as to the nature of checks and balances.

  • 2. David  |  November 21, 2011 at 11:07 am

    It's just one more item in a long list of areas that Mr Cain seems to be underinformed about.

  • 3. Sagesse  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    The Republicans have a very… er… expansive view of executive power. Remember George W?

  • 4. MJFargo  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    (And George the Third?)

  • 5. Sagesse  |  November 21, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    I tend not to think of him as a Republican, but point taken :).

  • 6. MJFargo  |  November 21, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    They're just a bunch of Torys in funny hats in my opine. Did you read David McCullough's book "1776"? It's a great dilenation of politics in America today.

  • 7. ameribrit  |  November 22, 2011 at 7:04 am

    Even the current Tory PM (the Ceonservative party currently in power in the U.K.) unequivocally has called for marriage equality.

  • 8. J Ascher  |  November 25, 2011 at 4:46 am

    The main difference between the UK Tory Party and our GOP is that our "conservative" party is religiously affiliated while the Tories aren't. With a religious focus, our GOP can't get away from (at least not easily) traditional Church doctrines.

  • 9. Carpool Cookie  |  November 21, 2011 at 11:07 am

    If an individual could overturn the Supreme Court, I think it would happen a lot.

  • 10. goudy  |  November 21, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Some of the comments they're making in the primary are just silly. Its as if they WANT to lose the general election.

  • 11. Mark  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    They will say anything to get elected. After in office, they would say "DUH. I can't do that."

  • 12. Ronnie  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Kinda reminds you of a high school election where they make promises they can't keep, yeah?….. " I will like totally get the school administration to like switch the water-fountains with Dr. Pepper dispensers and get them to hire a five star chef & catering company to wait on us during lunch. And I will totally enforce a no homework policy on game nights & weekends. Oh & I am going to totally change the school mascot to Stewie for sure."……. ; ) …Ronnie

  • 13. nightshayde  |  November 21, 2011 at 11:11 am

    I think Cain thinks he would just be able to overturn the Court with a flick of the pen. I'm pretty sure his understanding of Civics is less impressive than my daughter's — and she's only 7.

  • 14. Ann S.  |  November 21, 2011 at 11:17 am

    The man is an idiot.

  • 15. Bob  |  November 21, 2011 at 11:29 am

    I love Rachel Maddow's take on CAin,,, his whole thing is an art project,,, quiet humorous, when you think of it,,, and it really makes sense,,,, amazing that someone would get this far doing what he is doing……..

  • 16. DaveP  |  November 21, 2011 at 11:44 am

    He seems to have a lot of trouble just putting a sensible sentence together, too.

  • 17. Mark  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Getting this far? His ratings have fallen to the single digit. The more the man opens his mouth, the more his numbers go down. And thank you NOM for asking the questions that the candidates use to hang themselves.

  • 18. Ronnie  |  November 21, 2011 at 11:55 am

    ROFLMAO…… Herman Can't…….. MAUDE!!!!…… subscribing & sharing……

    By Unanimous Vote, NC Baptist Church Refuses To Marry Any Couple Until Gays Can Legally Wed:

    By a unanimous vote, the congregation of Pullen has decided it will not participate in discrimination and has approved a measure prohibiting the church's pastor from signing marriage certificates until all couples are afforded access to the right.

    "As people of faith, affirming the Christian teaching that before God all people are equal, we will no longer participate in this discrimination," the church's statement says.

    The vote was unanimous and brought tears to the eyes of some of the 100 or so members who stood to vote in favor of the "statement on marriage ceremonies."

    (me) Religious liberty…….. LIBERTY, SHELTER, EQUALITY NOW!!!!!…… <3…Ronnie

  • 19. Mark  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Let's take it a step further…until same sex marriage is legal, all marriages will be called "domestic partnerships", and all the benefits afforded to marriage will be that of a domestic partnership. If we really want equality…

  • 20. DaveP  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    Wow, a Baptist Church in North Carolina, no less.Awesome. Well Done, Pullen Baptist Church!

  • 21. Cat  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Some people move upwards because of a lack of weight. Herman Cain is definitely one of them.

  • 22. bjasonecf  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    UPDATE: Perry Appeal

    City and County of San Francisco's Response to Proponents' Motion to consolidate cases 10-16696 (appeal of decision) with 11-16577 (appeal on motion to vacate)

  • 23. licensetozill  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Well of course he said that, I mean that man is obviously the pure epitome of moral behavior… **Sarcasm

  • 24. Gregory in SLC  |  November 21, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Need more church protests like this one:
    Raleigh church votes to back gay marriage

  • 25. Gregory in SLC  |  November 21, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    I see Ronnie posted this above…..very cool.

  • 26. AnonyGrl  |  November 21, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Sadly, the audience Cain (and NOM) are talking to have even less of a grasp of how their own political systems work.

  • 27. Gregory in SLC  |  November 21, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    or knowledge of their own bible….

  • 28. AnonyGrl  |  November 21, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Good point.

  • 29. Will  |  November 21, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    There are already nine justices on the Supreme Court, so he's shit out of luck for court packing.

  • 30. Kalbo  |  November 21, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Actually, there is no fixed number of justices for the Supreme Court; Congress can change it at any time. And it's varied from 6 to 10 over time. ^_^

  • 31. Will  |  November 22, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    It was a 9-9-9 joke. >_>

  • 32. david0296  |  November 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    After this comment alone, he should be laughed off the political stage. 100% Grade-A moron.

  • 33. Mark  |  November 21, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Someone should ask Herman Cain his thoughts on NOMS Maggie Gallagher getting Knocked up at 22 and was unmarried…

  • 34. James Sweet  |  November 22, 2011 at 5:43 am

    It’s unclear if Cain meant he would (a) channel FDR and have a go at court-packing or (b) push a constitutional amendment.

    I don't think he meant either. I don't think he thought it through that far. I think it was the presidential candidate's equivalent of "Overturn THIS!" "The Supreme Court overturns me? I'll overturn them! Nobody overturns Herman Cain!"

    Seriously, even the right wing nutjobosphere is starting to realize that Cain has a disturbingly weak grasp of government and policy issues. This is just another example of it.

  • 35. AnonyGrl  |  November 22, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    I am seriously beginning to think that *I* (who am a Theoretical Communist) should run for the Republican Presidential nomination. It honestly makes as much sense as anything coming out of those who are running.

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