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BREAKING: The National Center for Lesbian Rights (NCLR) is joining one of the Alabama marriage cases

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Attorneys for the National Center for Lesbian Rights (NCLR) will join one of the challenges to Alabama’s same-sex marriage ban, Strawser v. Strange.

Strawser is the most recent marriage case decided in federal court. It was filed by one same-sex couple who sought a marriage license and were denied. The couple then sued on their own without a lawyer and won in federal district court.

Today, their notices of appearance were filed in the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals. According to the notices, Shannon Minter and Chris Stoll have been added to the case.

The addition of one of the leading LGBT rights organizations means that the couple will have strong representation in the Eleventh Circuit.

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is involved in a pending challenge to the state’s ban, Hard v. Strange.

Thanks to Equality Case Files for these filings


  • 1. JayJonson  |  January 29, 2015 at 5:00 pm

    More good news. NCLR has done wonderful work on behalf of marriage equality.

  • 2. guitaristbl  |  January 29, 2015 at 5:05 pm

    I really find it impressive that this couple went to federal court without a lawyer and won the case. Of course the other lawsuit which paved the way, had atorneys representing the couples, but still it is pretty humiliating for the state : Not even an attorney is needed to prove that the bans are unconstitutional.
    I do think, given an article posted on a previous thread recently as well, that the fact that a major organisation chooses to intervene and help now that they see that the case had success is kind of opportunistic though…Anyway I do wish them luck..!

  • 3. Decided_Voter  |  January 29, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    Did any major organizations even know the case existed? It seemed to take us all by surprise. Makes you wonder what others are out there…

    It's possible the couple appreciates the assistance even if it comes at this point in the case – they could've said no. I believe in early December the judge gave them 30 days to find council. That all changed after she ruled.

    I'm relieved they now have representation.

  • 4. VIRick  |  January 29, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    "Did any major organizations even know the case existed?"

    Probably not, as pro se cases tend to be at the very bottom of the "food chain." Lawyers make their money by representing clients. By definition, pro se cases have no lawyers. Lawyers not only represent their clients in court, they also tout their cases (and themselves) in the media. And they have every right to do so. By contrast, though, no one is out there touting a pro se case.

    Even cases represented by private counsel (which tend to be real cases, filed by real people, with real grievances) do not receive the same media coverage as do cases represented by the major Rights groups (which tend to be polished, groomed, "test" cases with lots of media hype). Ask Jim Brenner, of "Brenner v. Scott" fame, what happened when his Tallahassee-based case, with private counsel from Jacksonville, was consolidated with "Grimsley and Albu v. Scott," represented from the get-go by the several Miami-based Rights groups. Short answer: They tried to take over the whole show, despite having forgotten to cover one essential aspect, namely, in-state performance.

  • 5. Dr. Z  |  January 29, 2015 at 5:12 pm

    WTF? I thought SCOTUS denied Louisiana's request to take this case?

  • 6. Raga  |  January 29, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    The docket still shows that the petition for writ of certiorari before judgment was denied:

  • 7. Rick55845  |  January 29, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    That link doesn't work for me, Dr. Z. Is it just me, or did they take down that page?

  • 8. Raga  |  January 29, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    They've taken it down!

  • 9. Tony MinasTirith  |  January 29, 2015 at 6:22 pm


    You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool EoTers.

    Some idiot amateur reporter.

  • 10. Dr. Z  |  January 29, 2015 at 6:57 pm

    Especially for a publication that bills itself as "Louisiana's Legal Journal." Snort!

  • 11. Tony MinasTirith  |  January 29, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    They must have the Louisiana Supreme Court confused with SCOTUS. SCOTUS already denied cert to Louisiana plaintiffs before appellate review earlier this month. Louisiana is currently awaiting a ruling from the 5th.. as are Texas and Mississippi. That article makes no sense and is not being reported anywhere else.

  • 12. Raga  |  January 29, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    Time is running out for South Dakota to appeal to the Eighth Circuit. They have about two more weeks, and there is still no appellate record of the case on PACER. What are they waiting for?

  • 13. DrBriCA  |  January 29, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    Same for Michigan appealing the ruling on the 300 marriages. These states sure do like stretching out the process!

    Side note: remember a couple weeks ago when we had to do 300-400 posts per thread? (Especially during the holidays and the weekend of the Alabama decision) I feel like Scottie is making it up to us now with these multiple breaking posts for every day this week. Haha

  • 14. Tony MinasTirith  |  January 29, 2015 at 6:28 pm

    These remaining states should just capitulate as did Pensylvania and Nevada.

    We're still awaiting a ruling on Hawaii's 2013 ME law from the Hawaii Supreme Court.

  • 15. Zack12  |  January 29, 2015 at 7:13 pm

    The very last possible day.
    The governor of South Dakota is a bigot (to the point the National Association of the Deaf canceled his apperence there) so I fully expect him to drag this out.

  • 16. weaverbear  |  January 29, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    Off topic, but perhaps Scottie or someone from the EoT staff will answer. The donation Thermometer hasn't changed in days. Is it 'broken' or have folks stopped donating?

  • 17. Mike_Baltimore  |  January 29, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    Off topic

    Possible good news from New York – not directly related to GLBT in New York, but possible indirect good news that will affect them:

    NBC News (initial reporting is from Channel 4, the NBC TV station in NYC) is reporting that the Federal government is investigating the NY Senate Leader Dean Skelos' sources of income. Skelos is the leader of the Republicans in the NY Senate, and if his power is weakened and/or annulled, it could very easily lead to a weakening of the power of Republicans in the NY Senate.

  • 18. bayareajohn  |  January 29, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    Watch and be astonished at Rachel Maddow explaining the AFA firing Bryan Fischer, their head hater for many years..

    And the GOP is in a mess with the AFA, possibly triggering the firing. All in the story.

  • 19. MichaelGrabow  |  January 30, 2015 at 6:02 am

    I have not seen this here yet…$520k coming from where I live.

  • 20. Sagesse  |  January 30, 2015 at 6:49 am

    This discussion is being reactivated for the 6th Circuit case… might even succeed this time? This site requires registration, but permits five free articles per month.

    Media Urge Supreme Court to Allow Broadcast Coverage of Marriage Cases

  • 21. Sagesse  |  January 30, 2015 at 6:58 am

    From legal commentators Tony Mauro and Marcia Coyle. This site requires registration, but permits five free articles per month.

    Who Will Argue Same-Sex Marriage Cases in High Court?

  • 22. Sagesse  |  January 30, 2015 at 7:13 am

    Slate interviews Patricia Todd, Alabama rep who threatened to reveal affairs of hypocritical colleagues if they couldn't be civil. She's backed off somewhat.

    Rep. Patricia Todd: “I Guess I Have Better ‘Family Values’ Than My Opponents Do”

  • 23. Sagesse  |  January 30, 2015 at 7:17 am continues to provide in depth coverage of the Alabama ME decisons.

    Roy Moore's criticism of gay marriage ruling 'improper and unfair,' trial lawyers' group says []

  • 24. Sagesse  |  January 30, 2015 at 7:21 am

    No surprise here.

    With Alabama same-sex marriage decision looming, some probate judges stop doing weddings []

  • 25. MichaelGrabow  |  January 30, 2015 at 8:07 am

    Don't worry guys, it's just a coincidence!

    Judges Tommy Ragland of Madison County and Victor Manning of Jackson County cited the volume of work in the office and limited staffing for the decision made this week.

    Both men denied it was based on a reluctance to perform weddings for same-sex couples.

  • 26. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  January 30, 2015 at 7:30 am

    Off-topic update:

    Louisiana Supreme Court Urged to Rule in Gay Marriage Case Ahead of SCOTUS Decision

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