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I’m headed to the marriage hearing in Mobile soon!

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In a few minutes, I’ll be taking a long ride to the federal court house in Mobile, where Judge Granade will hear arguments on whether Mobile County should issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The hearing is necessary because the county probate judge won’t issue licenses to any couples at this point.

He sought clarification from the state supreme court on the issue, but they declined to get involved.

Thanks to your donations EqualityOnTrial will be front and center at this historic hearing! Without your help, we wouldn’t be able to witness these events first hand. As far as I’m aware, EOT will be the only LGBT media outlet in attendance at the hearing, though I’m sure local press will be there.

So I just wanted to say thanks for all your help in getting us there.

We’ll have coverage as quickly as possible. There won’t be an opportunity to live-blog or live-tweet the hearing, but I’ll be tweeting from @EqualityOnTrial immediately after it concludes and I’ll share any quotes or any important updates.

The hearing starts at 1PM Central Time.

102 Comments

  • 1. cpnlsn88  |  February 12, 2015 at 9:30 am

    Thanks for being there. We are all there with you in spirit and hoping for a good outcome!

  • 2. RemC_Chicago  |  February 12, 2015 at 9:42 am

    Thanks, Scottie, and good luck! I've been away on vacation without internet access and am just now scrambling to catch up.

  • 3. hopalongcassidy  |  February 12, 2015 at 9:56 am

    Excellent! Hope you don't have any trouble getting a seat!

  • 4. LK2013  |  February 12, 2015 at 10:00 am

    Hoping Judge Granade gives 'em hell and rules today!

  • 5. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:48 am

    Toss in our Granade! Hehehe.

  • 6. Zack12  |  February 12, 2015 at 10:26 am

    Here's hoping by the end of the day, it's made clear to judges they need to do their jobs or go to jail.

  • 7. RnL2008  |  February 12, 2015 at 10:40 am

    It would be nice…..I was reading the order from the Alabama Supreme Court and couldn't understand why Probate Judge Davis would ask them to give advice on a Federal ruling…….and the Good old Boy pat on the Back for Moore, Scalia and Thomas was just a bit nauseating!!!

    When will the Judge make her ruling?

  • 8. DeadHead  |  February 12, 2015 at 10:34 am

    Brendan Kirby at Alabama Live will be covering the hearing live follow the proceedings at http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/02/same-sex

    and with live tweets from AL.com reporter Casey Toner at https://twitter.com/ctoner

  • 9. MichaelGrabow  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:23 am

    1:15 p.m. Marshall says: "In short, there really is no conflict between state and federal law at this point."

  • 10. flyerguy77  |  February 12, 2015 at 10:43 am

    So I just read that Chief Roy Moore was added as a defendant to the case, so is it true? its very interesting because I haven't seen a siting judge was added to a court case

  • 11. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:09 am

    Follow hearing at: https://twitter.com/hashtag/ALmarriage?src=hash
    Attorneys for the plaintiffs and defendants introducing themselves and clients

  • 12. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:11 am

    ACLU's attorney Randall Marshall presenting evidence – "confusion" caused with Probate Judges. Judge Don Davis not present, his attorney is representing him.

  • 13. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:17 am

    ACLU: It’s not the federal order that compels the probate court to process same gender marriage applications. It’s the US constitution

  • 14. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:20 am

    ACLU: They are simply seeking to extended the initial preliminary injunction to another state official.
    Plaintiff attorney David Kennedy: "Same sex marriage was to begin on Feb. 9 and it is Feb. 12."
    Kennedy argues that Chief Justice Roy Moore's contention that only a ruling on the merits by the U.S. Supreme Court can overturn a state law is wrong. He notes that an appeals court and a high court both denied requests to put the federal ruling on hold past Feb. 9

  • 15. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:35 am

    Does Justice Roy Moore have the authority to exercise his duties – including issuing an administrative order – while an ethics complaint remains pending? Attorney Christine Hernandez agues that he does not, and she cites an Attorney General's opinion from the Ten Commandments case as evidence.

  • 16. guitaristbl  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:37 am

    No ruling from the bench from Granade :- She said she will rule as soon as she can..

  • 17. flyerguy77  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:42 am

    meaning today or tomorrow…

  • 18. terryweldon  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    No rulling? Not so! It's done.

    "U.S. Judge Orders Alabama Official to Issue Same-Sex Marriage Licenses"
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/13/us/alabama-same

  • 19. Raga  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    guitaristbl said no ruling from the bench, which is true.

  • 20. Raga  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:42 am

    Motion to Lift Texas Stay at the Fifth Circuit:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/255586997/14-50196-Moti

    I would rather the panel lift the stay entirely (and not the limited alternative). The Mississippi Plaintiffs should also join the request. And they should appeal to the Supreme Court this time (please!) if the Fifth declines to lift the stay.

  • 21. MichaelGrabow  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    MAN, I hope all of the states with stays in place get lifted before the SCOTUS rules!

  • 22. DrBriCA  |  February 12, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    Fingers crossed!

  • 23. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:44 am

    Court hear continues before ending: Defendant attorney Mike Druhan: Probate judge who did not issue gay marriage licenses is like a soldier who "steps on a mine" in Vietnam. If he stands there and does nothing (on gay marriage), snipers will shoot him in the head. He tells the federal judge that his client has no position. He says Davis merely is seeking guidance.
    ACLU attorney Marshall: "This is the law in Alabama". He asks Judge Granade for a broad order that applies beyond a single probate judge. 1:36 p.m. Judge Granade does not rule from the bench.

  • 24. Eric  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    Choosing to do nothing IS taking a position. He's choosing to maintain the unconstitutional status quo.

  • 25. Raga  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:51 am

    The two cert petitions from Governor Otter and State of Idaho seeking Supreme Court review of the Ninth Circuit ruling have been fully briefed (replies were filed Monday) and distributed for the conference of February 27 (the same day the opening brief is due in the consolidated appeals from the Sixth Circuit). I would rather the Justices simply denied the petition instead of holding on to it (as is normally the custom when the same issue has already been accepted for consideration by the Court).

    Otter v. Latta: http://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=
    Idaho v. Latta: http://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=

  • 26. guitaristbl  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:59 am

    This is kind of big news. If the court denies these petitions, apart from the message that sends, it also solidifies the situation in the 9th circuit and brings the cases there to the same level of closure as those in the 4th, 7th and 10th circuits.
    I can definately see them holding these cases though till June when they rule.

  • 27. DeadHead  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:55 am

    They live in a weird universe, making a comparison of the battle for marriage equality to the Vietnam war, these comments from the defendant's attorney are on the fringes of nonsense: “Probate judge who did not issue gay marriage licenses like a soldier who "steps on a mine" in Vietnam. … If he stands here and does nothing (on gay marriage), snipers will shoot him in the head.”

  • 28. A_Jayne  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:59 am

    Meaning voters will not vote for him in the next election? 'Cause it seems to me all any of them are really worried about is keeping their jobs come election time…

  • 29. ReadLearn  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Yes, Exactly. That's what it is all about.

  • 30. TDGrove  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:05 pm

    What they were trying to say is that the probate judge "dies" either way. The Federal judge says issue the license or I shoot, Ala SC possibly says issue the license and I shoot. This was the whole point of what Moore did, to create this situation to give the PJ's cover for not issuing.

  • 31. Eric  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    It's more like a probate judge that does nothing to issue marriage licenses to interracial couples.

  • 32. VIRick  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    Precisely so. Don Davis, Probate Judge of Mobile County AL, needs to review this 1970 federal case regarding Alabama's anti-miscegenation laws, and simply substitute his name in place of that of G. Clyde Brittain, Probate Judge of Calhoun County AL, and the words "same-sex" in place of "inter-racial" to understand the outcome. It's so deja-vu:

    After "Loving v. Virginia" (1967), it took an additional 3 1/2 years, and a second federal lawsuit, "United States v. Brittain and the State of Alabama" (1970), a case filed and pressed by the full weight of the US Government, before Alabama finally got the message (to some degree) that its anti-miscegenation laws were unconstitutional. "Loving" wasn't enough for Alabama; they needed their own special sledge-hammer blow between the eyes to get their attention.

    "United States v. Brittain" was initiated by US military authorities and the US Department of Justice on behalf of a US soldier stationed at Ft. McClellan after he and his bride-to-be were denied a marriage license by G. Clyde Brittain, Probate Judge of Calhoun County AL (Anniston), three years after "Loving." The couple subsequently got married in Tennessee, yet the State of Alabama still refused to recognize the marriage. Thus, the State of Alabama was added to the suit. http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-cour….

    I'll even issue the "spoiler" and tell him the outcome: The United States won, while the probate judge of Calhoun County and the State of Alabama lost.

  • 33. RobW303  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    Side note: the US lost that war, with no real gain for all the lives lost. Quite an apt analogy for the equality opponents.

    Think we should send him a supply of gauze bandages for his head?

  • 34. cpnlsn88  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    Roy Moore is acting like a local monarch of Alabama (and not the good kind); imposing his will on the Probate Justices like they are his own personal fiefdom as opposed to an officer of the law (albeit a very senior one and with seniority comes greater obligation not less) who has an allegiance to the US Constitution.

  • 35. dorothyrothchild  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    "… Local monarch (And not the good kind)". Did you mean like the butterfly? 🙂

    I just can't believe the judge wouldn't make an immediate ruling. She knows exactly what the issues are.

  • 36. Dr. Z  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    She probably realizes the need to carefully craft something that's difficult to squirm out of.

  • 37. hopalongcassidy  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    I suspect she wants to make damn sure she has the authority to do what's necessary here. One of the odd vicissitudes of the law is that it is always, by definition, correct but it can also be not right.

  • 38. RQO  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    Snipers? Viet Nam? Cut the crap. Each of us are equal sentient beings and citizens, responsible for our actions, and able to change our minds and make ammends once new information is presented. I thought "personal responsibility" was a hallmark of Republican/conservative ideology. Now we get Bart Simpson excuses.

  • 39. DACiowan  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    Cue Davis in a classroom writing "I will marry couples and not be a bigot" over and over…

  • 40. stefancm59  |  February 12, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    I have a question that's a little off topic for this thread and haven't seen much discussion on. Thomas made his opinion very well known in his dissent. If he was so gung ho about extending the stay, why didn't he just do it himself? Isn't that an option for all SCOTS justices who have circuit court jurisdiction? Pleased he didn't and that the outcome was what is was, but was he actually required to refer the appeal to the entire court? Just curious.

  • 41. DACiowan  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    He could have issued the stay on his own, but then the Alabama couples would have had the option of asking another SCOTUS judge (say, Ginsberg) to lift the stay. So all he could have done is delay the inevitable by maybe a day or so, and possibly run afoul of his colleagues in doing so.

  • 42. Eric  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    I suspect the justices agreed months ago to refer all the marriage stays to the full court.

  • 43. RnL2008  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    I agree with ya Eric……prevents Justice shopping, which right now….NONE of them seem to want to stand and be courageous!!!

  • 44. LK2013  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    I have to say the whole "standing on a mine" thing strikes me as grandiose and frankly delusional. Judge Davis is not in any danger. The people who are in danger are the couples who are continuing to be denied their civil rights. Get a freakin' grip on reality, you neanderthal numbskulls!

  • 45. DeadHead  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    More fear mongering from the right: “According to Right Wing Watch as well as media reports, Paul, Huckabee and four Republican members of the U.S. House of Representatives will appear in Light Win: How To Overcome The Criminalization Of Christianity, a documentary that will be released at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention on February 24 in Nashville, TN. Story at http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/rand-paul-mike-huck

    A trailer for the film, which includes comments such as "if homosexual activists get everything they want, it'll be nothing less than the criminalization of Christianity,” is available at http://youtu.be/eFIctFKnZKQ

  • 46. Mike_Baltimore  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    What will the right (aka bigots) do next?

    Depict the LGBT community as rats, spreading disease and pestilence, such as when the Nazi's produced and showed 'Der Ewige Jude' ('The Eternal Jew') in 1940?

  • 47. DeadHead  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    Much of what is in that video is a rehash of the same old crap they have spewed over the past years. They playing on the Christians. I don't think the younger generation will buy into the fear mongering spins nor will the people of color.

  • 48. Sagesse  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:21 pm

    Food for thought, while waiting for Judge Grenade to rule. Not saying I agree with Emily Bazelon's analysis… there is context in the weight of prior decisions based on essentially the same facts, and there is the whole question of harm (or not) that 37 states seem to have dealt with. Still, worth reading.

    In Sort-of-Defense of Roy Moore [New York Times]
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/magazine/in-sor

  • 49. hopalongcassidy  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    Just on MSNBC, judge Granade orders Mobile probate judge to issue SSM licenses. Will look for other breaking reports…

  • 50. DACiowan  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    The order is at http://www.scribd.com/doc/255598034/1-14-cv-00424

    (I was literally sitting on Twitter waiting for it)

  • 51. hopalongcassidy  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    Thanks. Let's hope this puts an end to the 'confusion'…

  • 52. Sagesse  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Yeeessss. Heading off to read now :).

  • 53. Nyx  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    Citing Phelps–Roper… Ahhh, Our favorite Kansas group… .

  • 54. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:07 pm

    Ruling, ruling, ruling!!!
    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbad

  • 55. DeadHead  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    And another win in 'Bama for us… The Presbytery of Sheppards and Lapsley, a central Alabama group of churches affiliated with the Presbyterian Church (USA), voted 75-39 Thursday in favor of approving gay marriages.

    They became one of about 38 presbyteries nationwide that have voted in favor of gay marriage, with 14 voting against. http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2015/02/presby

  • 56. Mike_Baltimore  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    Interesting.

    And a bit more interesting (because it IS in Alabama) than the Middle Tennessee Presbytery voting for ME on January 10 by a vote of 92-84.

  • 57. cpnlsn88  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    Yes, both results are indicative of where we're headed on this and very positive for the future for ME and Presbyterians.

  • 58. DACiowan  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    BOOM: Mobile County ordered to issue

  • 59. hopalongcassidy  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    Just now on CNN too!

    The other holdouts will have to seriously reconsider now.

    CLAP CLAP

  • 60. cpnlsn88  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    While we are (hopefully) waiting, I just came across this powerful state by state polling:
    http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads

    | am not sure exactly when the field work was done – might have been during 2014 or late 2014.

    It is a very interesting poll; quite a few states have really interesting results, others are more predictable.

  • 61. DeadHead  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    Judge Granade slapped those "good ole boys" down real good with her well worded order, coming from both a woman and an Bush appointed judge made it sting even more.

    "… Judge Davis may not deny them a license on the ground that Plaintiffs constitute same-sex couples or because it is prohibited by the Sanctity of Marriage Amendment and the Alabama Marriage Protection Act OR BY ANY OTHER ALABAMA LAW OR ORDER PERTAINING TO SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. This injunction binds Judge Don Davis and all his officers, agents, servants and employees, and others in active concert or participation with any of them, who would seek to enforce the marriage laws of Alabama which prohibit or fail to recognize same-sex marriage.”

  • 62. cpnlsn88  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Just for emphasis: any other Alabama law or *order* <ahem>; and 'others in active concert or participation'…… That's the sound of a nail being hit squarely on the head!

  • 63. Brad_1  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    Two legal questions:

    1) Will we have to go through this same exercise with each remaining bigoted probate judge, or does today's ruling somehow extend to other probate judges?

    2) Could Mobile's probate judge elect to cease offering marriage licenses to all parties (opposite sex and same sex)?

  • 64. Raga  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    Today's ruling only binds the Mobile County Probate Judge and only enjoins him from refusing to issue marriage licenses to the named Plaintiffs. (This is not the federal judge's fault – she is limited to only issue injunctions concerning the parties to the case.) He can refuse licenses to everyone else (until he gets sued again and gets enjoined by another injunction). Other Probate Judges can still do what they want.

    However, hopefully today's injunction is a lesson for the other judges under the jurisdiction of this federal court – either issue marriage licenses, or you will be subject to a lawsuit and an injunction and you will be responsible for all the legal fees.

    (So, the answer to your first question is yes, if any probate judges within the Southern District of Alabama continue to refuse.)

  • 65. cpnlsn88  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    They can be dealt with one by one if needed….After all the template for the ruling is written already…..

  • 66. Brad_1  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    Thank you for clarifying this.

  • 67. Pat_V  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    Actually, legally, this new order doesn't add any new information, does it? It only 'clarifies', and tells the bigot more explicitly what he must do. Since that's so, couldn't she have taken advantage of her order to matter-of-factly mention that "by the way, my earlier ruling, whose stay was lifted on Monday, applies to all of Alabama, so you guys all had beter comply with it".
    It would be extraordinary that we have to go county by county to explain their duties to each single Probate Judge…

  • 68. cpnlsn88  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    I actually think that she did. She enjoined this particular judge but prior to this stated the provisions themselves were unconstitutional because they violated the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as well as others who act in concert who would seek to implement the marriage laws of Alabama which prohibit or fail to recognise same-sex marriage. So I think it's broader than just the one Probate Judge, so I am quietly confident.

  • 69. JayJonson  |  February 13, 2015 at 6:37 am

    I agree. Any probate judge who wants to be in compliance with the law will have to follow the judge's clarification that the Constitution requires them to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. Probate judges who want to defy the law can expect to be sued by those whose constitutional rights they violate. So, yes, this ruling, though directed at a single probate judge, is actually quite broad. I hope that she is prepared to assess fines and attorney fees against any probate judge that refuses to obey the law.

  • 70. Raga  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    She did add new information. Her previous injunction only enjoined the AG. No probate judge was a party.

  • 71. Mike_Baltimore  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    In many ways, it is like laws against murder, and the trials of murderers.

    Do they stop all murders?

    No, but they indicate what the penalty might be if a person commits murder. Or the penalty might be worse.

  • 72. DeadHead  |  February 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    The Vanguard is reporting “Attn. Christine Hernandez says the windows will be open today. https://twitter.com/TheVanguardUSA

  • 73. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:07 pm

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  • 74. cpnlsn88  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:28 pm

    Hey. Who's downvoting the wiggle? Traditions should be respected – don't knock the wiggle!

  • 75. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    I know, right?! Haters gonna hate hate hate. I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake. SHAKE IT OFF, A-SHAKE IT OFF!!! A-WIGGLE, WIGGLE!!!!!

  • 76. Brad_1  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:46 pm

    I'd take those downvotes as a badge of honor, Wolf. Those haters are having a bad day/year/century.

  • 77. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  February 12, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    True that!

  • 78. tornado163  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    I'll admit that I'm 1 of the people downvoting the "wiggles". 1 reason is because it doesn't contribute any meaningful information to the conversation. Another is that a large block of all caps means you're shouting at me and distracts my eyes from any nearby text/comments which I find inconvenient.

  • 79. alleninsb  |  February 12, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    All of this is true and in addition it's enough of a pain in the ass to scroll through this site on a smartphone without adding contentless nonsense. I come here because this is the most intelligent site for discussion of an issue that it very important to me.

  • 80. davepCA  |  February 12, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    Not that my opinion matters any more than anyone else's, but I feel that a bit of celebratory 'wiggling' when we get good news is warranted and welcome. There are MANY comments posted here in response to good news which do essentially the same thing, with different words ("yaay!", "Excellent!!" etc.). Wiggle on, Wolf.

  • 81. DeadHead  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    The windows have opened in Mobile in time for a Happy Valentines Day weekend to the couples photos here https://twitter.com/hashtag/ALmarriage?src=hash

  • 82. dorothyrothchild  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:38 pm

    Fantastic – thanks for posting that!

  • 83. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    With Mobile included, counties representing 55% of the states' population are inclusive. The preponderance of these counties (12) a located around Montgomery. Who is next on the road to 60%. Celebration and Recognition!

  • 84. Pat_V  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    Yay! and adding Tuscaloosa (per Guitaristbl's comment below), that's 57%! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sOMXM59jZ

    (Right?)

  • 85. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    I also added Lee Co:- To the NYT Bill English, the probate judge in Lee County, on Thursday afternoon, said he had read Judge Granade’s order and interpreted it as applying to him. “We’ll begin issuing licenses tomorrow morning,” he said, adding that “a number” of same-sex couples had inquired about applying for a license. 65% of residents will be living in inclusive counties in the morning. IMO, by noon it will be 70%. Kansas achieved 83% in 4 months.

  • 86. DACiowan  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    Now, the most populous hold out county is #5 in the state: Shelby County, containing Birmingham suburbs. A close second is Tuscaloosa County.

  • 87. montezuma58  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    Shelby county probate judge still wants to play games. He's opening back up but just for straight couples.
    http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/

  • 88. A_Jayne  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    Apparently his office wants to be next to pay plaintiff's legal bills to make him honor his oath of office…

  • 89. RobW303  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    He must've gotten a call from Liberty Counsel saying "We'll defend you and pay all the fines. Just fall on the sword."

  • 90. Zack12  |  February 12, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    File a lawsuit already.

  • 91. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    But Monte that was done yesterday afternoon. Is Shelby wanting to be viewed as not progressive. There are six smaller populated inclusive counties. It and Huston are 2/12 counties with a population over 100,000 that are not inclusive; and the latter county is just over 'the floor' number.

  • 92. VIRick  |  February 12, 2015 at 8:40 pm

    Shelby County is where all the white bigots have moved to in order to be beyond Jefferson County (Birmingham) and its large black population. Blount County is the same, but in the opposite direction from downtown Birmingham.

  • 93. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    Tuscoloose County to issue marriage licenses beginning tomorrow am. 60% of residents of the state will then be residing in inclusive counties.

  • 94. LK2013  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    So … does this mean the sniper got Judge Davis? Or the mine?

    Or Lady Justice? 🙂

  • 95. samg68  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:38 pm

    The question now is how will the other probate judges react?

  • 96. guitaristbl  |  February 12, 2015 at 2:39 pm

    Thank you Judge Granade ! I have to note though I love that before enjoining Davis from refusing licenses, she once again founds the amendment and statutory law unconstitutional..! So every time a lawsuit is brought against a probate judge, the amendment has to be found unconstitutional..! How many times does it have to be struck down lol ?

  • 97. RobW303  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    Is there a publicly accessible recording of the hearing?

  • 98. guitaristbl  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    Tuscaloosa will start issuing licenses :
    http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20150212/NE

  • 99. 1grod  |  February 12, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    Tomorrow morning!

  • 100. netoschultz  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20150212/NE

    In light of a ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Callie V.S. Granade that Mobile County's probate judge may not withhold marriage licenses from same-sex couples, Tuscaloosa County Probate Judge Hardy McCollum said his office will do the same.

    “We will comply and begin issuing licenses,” McCollum said. “This is an order that I feel requires the issuance of (marriage) licenses to same-sex couples.”

  • 101. Zack12  |  February 12, 2015 at 5:05 pm

    I am loving Judge Granade!

  • 102. terryweldon  |  February 13, 2015 at 2:14 am

    While the bigots dig in their heels supposedly in the name of religion, it's worth noting that some churches are embracing the new realities, and preparing to conduct same – sex weddings or blessing ceremonies in church.
    https://queerchurch.wordpress.com/2015/02/13/gay-

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