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Equality news round-up: Guam opinion striking marriage equality is out, and more

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njBREAKING UPDATE: A state judge in Arkansas ruled that same-sex marriages performed in the state must be recognized. The opinion is here

Buzzfeed reports on the first active duty transgender Army officer.

– Same-sex couple marries in Guam.

– More from Equality Case Files on the fraud trial against JONAH, a group that practices so called LGBT “conversion therapy”.

– The written opinion in Guam’s marriage equality case has been released.

Thanks to Equality Case Files for these filings

77 Comments

  • 1. Rick55845  |  June 9, 2015 at 8:57 am

    The link to the written opinion mentioned above just links back to this article on EOT. Can you fix it, Scottie? Or does anyone have the link?

  • 2. Fortguy  |  June 9, 2015 at 10:56 am

    Here is the correct link: http://files.eqcf.org/cases/115-cv-00009-39/

  • 3. Rick55845  |  June 9, 2015 at 11:26 am

    Thank you.

  • 4. jdw_karasu  |  June 9, 2015 at 11:52 am

    Quick in-and-out by the Judge. Point to the 9th and be done with it. She's a GWB appointment, so to expect an eloquent ruling from her wasn't likely.

  • 5. ebohlman  |  June 9, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    Judge Jones of PA is a GWB appointee, and calling his ruling eloquent would be the understatement of the century.

  • 6. 1grod  |  June 9, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    Shortest decision on same gender marriage for a state/territory ever!

  • 7. RemC  |  June 9, 2015 at 9:09 am

    My O.T. (off-topic) for the day, but I gotta say I LOVE this. After declaring that he was moving his business accounts from Wells Fargo to a bank that doesn't promote sin (i.e., anti-gay), Franklin Graham chose BB&T as his new bank.

    BB&T, is, according to a press release from the Pride organization from my former home of Miami Beach, in partnership with Miami Beach Gay Pride, hosting:

    "a fundraising reception to honor the popular “Legacy Couples” program established during the first Miami Beach Gay Pride in 2009 and held every year since. Legacy Couples are featured guests of the Miami Beach Gay Pride parade and are celebrated for their committed relationships of 10 years or longer. Special guests at the event will be Frank Petrole and Marc Rudick, together for 55 years, and Mary Maguire and Jackie Emmett, together for 53 years. “For more than 140 years, BB&T has supported the goals of our clients, friends and neighbors by sharing financial knowledge and guidance,” said Arthur Costa, BB&T Regional Multicultural Markets Officer. “We also support the individuals and organizations that broaden our perspectives and strengthen the diverse fabric of our communities. That’s why BB&T is proud to be a part of this day of pride and celebration of the 2015 Legacy Couples.”

    I was having a rotten morning but, oh, this has lightened my spirits considerably!!!

  • 8. jcmeiners  |  June 9, 2015 at 9:18 am

    A bank that doesn't promote sin is an oxymoron. There is a biblical prohibition against charging interest that's all too conveniently forgotten, not to mention the immorality of many other aspects of modern banking.

  • 9. mu2  |  June 9, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    Of course there is no such thing as 'sin'. It is a completely arbitrary, illusory, artificial, capricious and irrational concept that varies according to which delusional belief system is attempting to define it. What is 'sin' to one is holy sacrament to others, and vice versa.

    Make believe gods have no connection to the real world and neither does the imaginary "Satan" that some people appear (and/or claim) to believe in.

    We have learned more about our universe and how and why it operates in the last 30 or 40 years than in all of human history.

    This lets us realize we have no need to invent imaginary, magical, supernatural 'gods' to explain thunder, disease, planetary motion, chemical reactions, etc.

    Hundreds of religious belief systems have gone down the toilet of history and the few remaining ones are circling the bowl as we speak.

  • 10. ebohlman  |  June 9, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    The concept of sin doesn't inherently require the existence of supernatural beings; it just represents a class of value judgments. Generally they're way too subjective to form the basis for law or policy (and appeals to supernatural beings are often used to contest this subjectivity), but that doesn't make them nonexistent.

  • 11. mu2  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    If you want to broaden the 'definition' to the degree it includes any evil action, thought or word, it ceases to have any meaning at all. It is my contention that anything that has no meaning has no existence…like supernatural deities which are necessary (and of course imaginary) for the concept to begin with, not to mention that something that purportedly exists outside the nature WE occupy can not, by definition, have any interaction with or influence on our sphere. You can find someone if you look hard enough to condemn damn near ANYTHING as "sinful".

  • 12. VIRick  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:56 pm

    Perhaps he'll have to start doing his banking with the co-operative Mennonite Bank of Sarasota FL, located in the "Amish Village" within that city.

    Oh wait! He'll have to become a Mennonite, and start wearing a flat-topped straw hat and dark overalls, begin pedaling a bicycle around town, and do his banking in person. Besides believing in that biblical thing about not charging interest, they also don't drive motorized vehicles or use electricity and electronics.

  • 13. mu2  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    Years ago a Mennonite teenager showed up at the airport where I was based looking to learn to fly a plane. I didn't know he was one for several weeks, he told me the day I signed him off to solo. I said "aren't you guys supposed to avoid mechanical contraptions?"….he said "yeah but it's so much fun I'll have to tell my family "I quit". (He turned out to be a pretty damn good pilot)

  • 14. VIRick  |  June 9, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    Apparently, there are several different "orders" of Mennonites, including one which is deemed by the others to be a bit of a "renegade" sect. For several reasons, simultaneously, my eyeballs almost fell out of my head when I recently witnessed two heavy-set, matronly Mennonite women, still clad in their little white bonnets and long dark purple dresses, pumping gas into their car in downtown Berlin OH.

    That was the same day I also witnessed electronically flashing directional signals (battery-powered, front and rear) on an Amish horse-and-buggy, as well as that sexy fluorescent orange-pink triangle on the rear of the standard-black buggies, now required for night-time driving (in the buggy lanes along state and county highways) in Ohio. My brother also pointed out to me the quaintly-disguised "Amish" telephone booths which just "happen" to be located at strategic corners throughout the surrounding countryside,– for "business" purposes only.

    Also, the Amish horse-and-buggies tend to convoy in the buggy-lanes along the highways, those with the "spiffy" new electronic gear in the lead and at the tail.

  • 15. guitaristbl  |  June 9, 2015 at 9:21 am

    Off topic : for apparently masochistic reasons I do love to visit the federalist from time to time and gosh the right is truly obsessed with LGBT people if the proportion of articles on that subject compared to everything else is indicative of what goes on in their heads..
    I counted no less than 3 articles (on first view there could be more) about Caitlyn Jenner (of course all venomous and misgendering her) and the first two huge parts of a 5 part analysis on christians & gays, from the usual cries of heavy religious prosecution to analysis on how christians were the anti slavery crowd and lgbt people are like the pro slavery crowd.
    Very fun, especially the comment sections full of far right keyboard warriors lol.

    Its funny but disappointing at the same time that such forums represent the majority of views in one of the two major parties in what is supposed to be the most powerful country in the world..

  • 16. DEV_ally  |  June 9, 2015 at 11:12 am

    Checkout http://www.politcalforum.com sometime for some really amusing arguments, especially in the Gay & Lesbian Rights sub-forums. Some of the posters are virulently anti-gay and just tie themselves up in knots coming up with all sorts of rationales for hating LGBT people. There's a number of left-wing/progressive/liberal posters (myself included) who will argue with these rabid right-wingers and point out the hypocrisy and inaccuracies of their posts.

  • 17. mu2  |  June 9, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    You left out the 2nd "i".
    it's http://www.politicalforum.com/
    😉

  • 18. DEV_ally  |  June 9, 2015 at 6:08 pm

    Doah! Color me embarassed…

  • 19. RemC  |  June 9, 2015 at 1:59 pm

    Wait—the entire South wasn't Christian during the Civil War?

  • 20. guitaristbl  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    No according to the federalist the north was more christian thats why it opposed slavery..

  • 21. RemC  |  June 9, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    And yet—to allow my snarkiness to continue—most of the states opposing ME are in the South, are they not?

  • 22. VIRick  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    "…. for apparently masochistic reasons …."

    Oh, you ARE kinky, aren't you?!??

  • 23. guitaristbl  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    I need a good reminder of what levels of non factual hatred we are facing to not let myself get too comortable and cozy.

  • 24. ReadLearn  |  June 9, 2015 at 11:43 am

    OFF TOPIC: Why doesn't Franklin Graham boycott Facebook, Apple, and Microsoft, all phone companies and airlines? (He is boycotting Wells Fargo for their advertisement depicting a married gay couple. Says people should boycott all pro-gay businesses). Well, he needs to get the list of all the businesses that signed the Supreme Court brief for gay marriage – which includes anyone who's anyone.

  • 25. Eric  |  June 9, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    Because superstition doesn't require logical consistency.

  • 26. RnL2008  |  June 9, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    I suggest that Franklin Graham and other anti-gay folks boycott oxygen, but NONE appear to do that!!

  • 27. RobW303  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    BTW, I wonder how that fast for marriage is going? Haven't heard much about it lately. Guess they can't put their sincerely-held religious beliefs where their mouths are.

  • 28. ReadLearn  |  June 10, 2015 at 1:35 am

    Update: The bank where he moved his money to reportedly was a sponsor for the gay pride parade in Miami. LOL. Poor Franklin.

  • 29. RnL2008  |  June 9, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Here is an article about if SCOTUS rules against ME: http://www.columbian.com/news/2015/jun/09/high-co

    It mentions the chaos I have been discussing with certain individuals!!!

  • 30. Dann3377  |  June 9, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    And this is exactly why we won't lose 🙂

  • 31. RnL2008  |  June 9, 2015 at 2:16 pm

    My point exactly……the chaos would be tremendous and this would be back in the Justices laps and I seriously don't believe they want this around any longer than it currently has been.

  • 32. ebohlman  |  June 9, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    Basically the Court would be faced with a repeat of Hollingsworth (can a State selectively withdraw an existing right from some people but not others?) only this time with parties that have proper standing.

  • 33. RnL2008  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    That would be correct, but I just don't see SCOTUS wanting the headache to continue for them, unless your Justice Scalia who would love to toss us around for a bit longer.

  • 34. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    Yesterday, I married my fiance. Hehehe! 🙂

  • 35. davepCA  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    Yeah!! that's wonderful!! Congratulations to you both!! : )

  • 36. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:16 pm

    Thank you, Dave!! 🙂

  • 37. RobW303  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    And no wiggles?? I'm not laying odds on this marriage lasting.

  • 38. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    Oh, there were wiggles, trust me. I just didn't record it. 😉 lmao

  • 39. davepCA  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:36 pm

    For your enjoyment, a re-post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35uhud2k78M

  • 40. Steve27516  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    Congratulations, Wolf!

  • 41. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    Thank you, Steve! Wiggle wiggle wiggle!!!

  • 42. dlejrmex  |  June 10, 2015 at 6:20 am

    Finally! I guess you were to tired to wiggle for us until now! 😉 Congrats Wolf!

  • 43. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 10, 2015 at 6:25 am

    All those untyped wiggles tho LOL

  • 44. RnL2008  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    Congrats Wolf…….may you both be truly happy!!!

  • 45. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    Thank you, Rose!!!! <3

  • 46. RnL2008  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    We must get together to celebrate this special event<3

    You know how to reach me and again Congratulations on your nuptials

  • 47. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 10, 2015 at 6:25 am

    Of course!

  • 48. JayJonson  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    Congratulations, Wolf of Raging Fires!!! May you two enjoy a wonderful married life.

  • 49. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    Thank you very much, Jay!!!

  • 50. seannynj  |  June 9, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    Congrats!!!

  • 51. RemC  |  June 9, 2015 at 6:28 pm

    Oh, how wonderful. Congratulations!! Large ceremony or small? Fancy or simple? Which fiance was it?

  • 52. VIRick  |  June 9, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    "Which fiance was it?"

    It was the "lucky" one!!!

  • 53. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 10, 2015 at 6:26 am

    Small civil ceremony, larger one is coming later.
    Simple, fancy is coming later.
    The second one. Lol.

  • 54. weaverbear  |  June 10, 2015 at 10:00 am

    Mazel Tov, Wolf! May you both have many years of joy together.

  • 55. Tony MinasTirith  |  June 9, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    Congratulations !

  • 56. jpmassar  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:36 pm

    Arkansas:

    judge ordered Arkansas officials on Tuesday to recognize more than 500 same-sex marriages performed in the state last year, a move that will let the couples enjoy a host of benefits such as filing taxes jointly and enrolling together in state health insurance plans.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-arkansas

  • 57. davepCA  |  June 9, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    Excellent!!

  • 58. 1grod  |  June 9, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    "logically absurd and fundamentally unjust " and is conjunctive ["as in peanut butter and jelly"]
    While the subject line's words in the url are wrong, it is the ruling in Frazier-Hanson vs Walthers Pulaski Co, Arkansas: http://www.freedomtomarry.org/page/-/images/Alaba
    "The [state] argument, however sincerely held, is both logically absurd and fundamentally unjust". ….."With shameless disregard for fundamental fairness and equality, Director Walther insists on treating the marriage of same sex couples who received marriage licenses between May 9 and May 15 as'void from inception as a matter of law. Meanwhile Director Walther asserts the 'heterosexual marriages performed in the state of Arkansas between May 10 and May 16 as valid." This court categorically rejects Directors Walther's manifestly inaccurate and tortured mis-interpretation of Rule 60

  • 59. 1grod  |  June 10, 2015 at 5:44 am

    Regulars in particular Rose, Wolf, Rick and RemC and others with a sense of humour. Of all the cases since Prop 8, and I read near all, this is a must read. For those who enjoy learning of an officious public servant being scolded, this is the text. For those who get righteous over grammar, you will enjoy the judge's focus on it's importance, indeed its core to the decision. I'm sure Walther felt excoriated – or should have felt so. Pr*ck. G

  • 60. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 10, 2015 at 6:48 am

    Hahaha!

    Such a good read.

    Director Walther: Judge Piazza can't do what he did because Rule 60 doesn't allow it.

    Court: Um, you're an idiot. Both parts of Rule 60 allow this. Also, peanut butter AND jelly…you asshole.

    Director Walther: Oh.

  • 61. VIRick  |  June 10, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    "Court: Um, you're an idiot. Both parts of Rule 60 allow this. Also, peanut butter AND jelly…you asshole."

    Wolfie, that's an excellent summary of the court's opinion, as Judge Griffen rendered quite a scathing judgment. I was astounded by the entire discourse on "peanut butter AND jelly," as it was written almost as if he were addressing a young child.

  • 62. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 10, 2015 at 1:54 pm

    "I was astounded by the entire discourse on 'peanut butter AND jelly,' as it was written almost as if he were addressing a young child."

    He might as well be.

  • 63. VIRick  |  June 10, 2015 at 2:07 pm

    Also, the entire "peanut butter AND jelly" discourse directly implied your own phraseology regarding Director Walther, "idiot AND asshole." So, yes.

  • 64. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 10, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    Hahaha. Yes.

  • 65. RemC  |  June 10, 2015 at 8:47 am

    Thanks, 1grod! Pages 9 and 14 were CHOICE. I still fantasize about a custom-made t-shirt that reads "These are not the arguments of serious people," but I have to put "peanut butter AND jelly" on the back.

    After experiencing the sense of righteous smugness for the judge's wordings, along came sadness that this true absurdity had to happen in the first place, and that it took a year to correct, and that the appeals before the state's supreme court is still in limbo.

  • 66. VIRick  |  June 10, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    Rem, during a portion of that year of waiting, I believe that the plaintiffs fully expected the Arkansas Supreme Court to rule, and to rule in their favor, on the underlying case, "Wright v. Arkansas," before the end of 2014. When that didn't happen, they finally filed a new lawsuit, "Frazier-Henson v. Walther," in February 2015, demanding recognition. The decision just reached was in this latter case.

  • 67. Sagesse  |  June 10, 2015 at 3:30 am

    This may be a stupid question, but can a county court judge bind the entire state? Marvelous decision, regardless.

  • 68. guitaristbl  |  June 9, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    I would like to address something else that has striken me as quite outrageous.
    Far right religious bigots say they do not have to "facilitate Jenner's or any other trans person's mental disorder and non existant fantasies."

    The same people have insisted for centuries that we facilitate as a society their belief in a deity whose existence they cannot prove who had a son conceived by a virgin who grew up performing miracles, dying and resurrecting and then rising to the sky bathed in light and the only source of all that is a 2000 year old collection of books and letters, a collection made with dubious criteria from equally ancient scholars.
    And they have not only asked that our society today even, in 2015, facilitates and plays along with that belief but it is elevated to the highest civil and constitutional standard to the extent where we not only have to respect that belief but actually have laws inspired by that belief forced on all of us who do not share it. Like the equivalent of a trans person forcing everyone to have a reassignment surgery or hormone therapy..
    And the most outrageous is that gender dysphoria has more of a rational and scientific basis than religion will ever have !

    Anyway, my point is that its ludicrous for people who believe in what mythical events they believe to claim they cannot facilitate the much more existant reality of a trans person.

    I know trying to find logic in conservatives is like trying to find a polar bear in the desert but I had to put my thoughts down..

  • 69. mu2  |  June 10, 2015 at 5:55 am

    Fundie "christians" are hilarious and pathetic. They ridicule Muslims for believing a guy talked to Gabriel, the chief errand boy for 'god' in a cave and they call Mormons insane because their main guy found golden plates in upstate New York with magical messages from some other 'god' and many think Catholics are "unchristian" because….of various goofy reasons, many of which are legitimate, but they are perfectly willing to sincerely believe in talking snakes, global floods, virgin births, dead guys waking up, and other sundry and assorted absurdities.

    It's no wonder people are abandoning the sinking, stinking ship of monotheism by the thousands every day. We are learning that no imaginary gods are needed to explain thunder, planetary motion, disease, ordinary chemical reactions and descent with modification. Their make believe god is circling the toilet bowl of history and will soon join the thousands of other imaginary deities that have long been flushed.

  • 70. RemC  |  June 9, 2015 at 7:44 pm

    The lawyer defending JONAH in the NJ lawsuit talked about the threat of Satan on Catholic radio. No comment. Well, maybe one: GOOD GOLLY, Miss Molly.

    Well, maybe one more: I hope he is getting the attention he so richly deserves. Another member of the opposition inadvertently helping to further justice.

    http://www.advocate.com/politics/religion/2015/06

  • 71. ianbirmingham  |  June 9, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    Is this worst campaign stop ever? Rick Santorum is met by just ONE voter at Iowa lunch event – and she's the local Republican chairwoman

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3116948/I

  • 72. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 9, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    Pentagon Adds 'Sexual Orientation' To Military's Anti-Discrimination Policy

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/09/military

  • 73. Sagesse  |  June 10, 2015 at 3:36 am

    Superb news! And congratulations on your own superb news, Wolf :).

  • 74. Wolf of Raging Fires  |  June 10, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    Thank you, Sagesse!!

  • 75. SethInMaryland  |  June 9, 2015 at 11:42 pm

    the mps in Australia are starting to rack up in support , now they just need the vote

  • 76. Sagesse  |  June 10, 2015 at 3:47 am

    The Search for the Best Estimate of the Transgender Population [NYT]
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/09/upshot/the-sear

  • 77. DJSNOLA  |  June 11, 2015 at 7:23 am

    One thing I really look forward to after what I think will be a likely marriage victory is how the anti gay brigade will try to position their hate for LGBTs. Their animus will be so much more obvious. So their two options will be to either expose their true feelings or attack larger groups of people just to harass one group. It appears the latter is what they are going to do and I couldn't be happier. This type of strategy will result in special class status for LGBTs much quicker, especially if we don't get it in the marriage cases.

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