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Equality news round-up: Kim Davis is back at work, and more

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Kentucky state seal– Mississippi officials are defending the state’s anti-gay adoption ban.

– Rowan County clerk Kim Davis has been denied an injunction pending appeal. The judge wrote that she should ask for relief under state law in state court.

– Davis is back at work today. She says she will continue denying marriage licenses, but she claims she won’t interfere if deputy clerks want to issue them.

Thanks to Equality Case Files for these filings

69 Comments

  • 1. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 8:35 am

    IN A DRAMATIC TURN OF EVENTS, MALCOM TURNBULL UNSEATS TONY ABBOTT as leader of the Liberal Party. Turnbull is now Australia's Prime Minster Elect! Abbott kicked to curb by own party. Abbot out on his ass in Australia.

    Australian Minister Malcolm Turnbull will become Australia's 29th prime minister after unseating Prime Minster Tony Abbott in a dramatic leadership ballot in Canberra on Monday night.

    Malcolm Turnbull wins party ballot 54 votes to Abbott's 44 votes http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/72046444/m….

    In July 2012, Turnbull was criticized for saying that civil unions should be accepted as a first step towards full same-sex marriage rights. Turnbull supports gay marriage and a conscience vote for Coalition MP's on the issue.

    Turnbull has previously stated his personal support for marriage equality, and has sought a conscience vote among his party’s MPs on the issue.

    “I would not be troubled if gay couples were able to have their relationships, their unions, termed ‘marriage,” he said back in 2012, and a few times since.

    Abbott has now become the shortest reigning first-term prime minister to be overthrown, Rod Tiffen, an emeritus professor of political science at the University of Sydney, told Reuters.

    Despite Mr Abbott having received criticism for his stance on same-sex marriage, it appears that Mr Turnbull holds the same views on a plebiscite. Sources close to Mr. Turnbull, told the Star Observer that Turnbull would stick with the “party position on a plebiscite on marriage equality”. We shall see…

  • 2. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:02 am

    Now if we can only do the same with Texas' Abbott…. Kick him out on his ass, that is.

    At least his predecessor has crashed and burned on his 2nd humiliating and failed attempt at the Presidency. Hopefully we've all seen the end and last of Rick Perry on the national stage.

  • 3. Alphazip  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:34 am

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2015/09/14/pm-ma

    Looks like there still may not be a free vote in the Australian parliament: "Turnbull has made several concessions to the party’s right, including keeping the current climate targets of 26-28 percent of 2005 greenhouse gas emissions levels by 2030, committing to a plebiscite on same-sex marriage and agreeing not to go to an early election."

  • 4. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:49 am

    Yes, even still. It's much better to have a PM who is personally in favor of a free vote and of Marriage Equality than Tony Abbott who, like Kim Davis, would never have it under his watch. At least now there's a shimmer of hope. Who knows, maybe the Australian people will put the Labor party back in power next year. This recent news can only be seen as a step forward, not backward for ME. Had Abbott won the vote of his party, it would be another vote of confidence in his policies.

  • 5. Zack12  |  September 14, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    Throwing out Abbott likely won't save his party from getting its butt kicked next year, especially when they are going to keep many of the unpopular policies in place.

  • 6. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    I'm just glad he's out. He is as annoying as Kim Davis… but with the power to halt Marriage Equality. Notice anti ME leaders are out… and ME leaders are IN? Obama, Cameron, Mujica until recently. Out: Abbot, Gilliard, the first minister of Northern Ireland.

  • 7. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 8:44 am

    Breaking News….

    Same Sex couple gets marriage license over Kim Davis' objection: 1st since she returned to work – @AP.

    I'm tellin you, the Nationwide Marriage Equality Express train might hit some bumps in the tracks, but THERE IS NO STOPPING IT in the Western World. All Engines! Full Ahead!!!….. Next stop… AUSTRALIA! All Aboard…

  • 8. EricKoszyk  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:15 am

    And after/ before Australia, hopefully Northern Ireland.

  • 9. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:29 am

    and after that…we need to get Japan on board.

  • 10. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:55 am

    I wonder what's going on with Marriage Equality in Slovenia,,, (⊙_☉)

  • 11. allan120102  |  September 14, 2015 at 10:30 am

    I am wondering too. Its really weird that their are no news about marriage equality there.

  • 12. scream4ever  |  September 14, 2015 at 11:07 am

    The Constitutional Court was scheduled to meet to continue discussions last week. Not sure if they made any progress.

    I'm also expecting we'll hear news out of Colombia soon too.

  • 13. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    Who woulda thought… all this marriage equality in South America.

  • 14. itscoldoutside  |  September 15, 2015 at 2:42 am

    As sream4ever said, they had this very issue scheduled for their first post-vacation conference last week. Unfortunately they don't release the minutes.

    They did say some time ago that we can expect the decision in the autumn.

  • 15. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 10:52 am

    FL marriages licenses will now be gender-neutral

    ST. PETERSBURG, Florida — A long fought battle led to the legalization of same-sex marriages in Florida and now marriage licenses will reflect the law.

    Starting Monday, marriage certificates and license applications will display "spouse" and "spouse," instead of "bride" and "groom."

    The Bureau of Vital Statistics, under the Florida Department of Health, sent the new forms to Clerks of Court around the state. The forms are created at the state level and then the local clerks administer the marriage certificates.

    Same-sex marriage became legal in Florida on Jan. 6. Different counties, like Hillsborough, held group ceremonies to marry gay couples. Then in June, same-sex marriage became legal nationwide after a U.S. Supreme Court decision.

    But, the battle still continues for some seeking names on other documents.

    A St. Petersburg same-sex couple is suing the state after noticing only one parent's name appeared on their child's birth certificate. The lawsuit is asking the Bureau of Vital Statistics to allow both parents' name on the birth certificate if they are a married same-sex couple.<i/>
    <a href="http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/florida/2015/09/14/florida-marriages-licenses–now–gender-nuetral/72249450/
    ” target=”_blank”>http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/florida/2015/09/14/florida-marriages-licenses–now–gender-nuetral/72249450/

  • 16. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 11:00 am

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/09/14/two-anti-gay

    Anti Gay Marriage leaders from Australia and Northern Ireland, gone in a week.… Angela Merkel next

    Anti-gay marriage heads of government in Northern Ireland and Australia have both been toppled within a week – could Germany’s Angela Merkel be next?
    Northern Ireland’s First Minister Peter Robinson, a strong opponent of same-sex marriage, resigned last Thursday amid a crisis over the IRA.

    Australia's Tony Abbott was toppled in a leadership ballot today amid a separate power struggle …

    Given the spate of anti-gay marriage leaders being toppled – could Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel be next?

    Merkel's country now too faces a political crisis, following a snap decision to close its borders with neighboring Austria.

    The country, usually seen as a focus of pro-European co-operation, has been thrown into disarray by abandoning the Schengen Area’s concept of free movement in Europe, establishing controls to attempt to limit the numbers of refugees arriving.

    Two down….One to go. Better start packing your bags Angie.

  • 17. stevew999  |  September 14, 2015 at 11:10 am

    She may be allowing her clerks to issue licenses, but they've made a BUNCH of changes to them based on the picture I saw. Items X'd out, a statement about the federal court order instead of the name of the clerk, and the deputy issuing them is not listed as Deputy, but instead as a Notary Public.

    Just can't quit playing games, can she?

  • 18. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 11:16 am

    I'm pretty sure all these shenanigans are Matt Staver's idea.

    I sure hope Judge Bunning orders an immediate stop to her little games, and warns her that if she continues to defy the spirit of the court's orders, next time he'll send her up to the same federal pen they sent Martha Stewart to.

  • 19. stevew999  |  September 14, 2015 at 11:23 am

    I'd think all it would take is one couple to go to the judge and ask "We're a little concerned that these licenses have been tampered with to the point that they're illegal".

  • 20. GregInTN  |  September 14, 2015 at 11:51 am

    I would think that would have to go to a state court before the federal court could get involved in that issue.

  • 21. FredDorner  |  September 14, 2015 at 3:13 pm

    She was already ordered not to directly or indirectly interfere in the licensing procedure, so she's already far over the line.

  • 22. JayJonson  |  September 14, 2015 at 11:26 am

    The couples that receive these altered licenses should immediately ask to intervene in the continuing lawsuit against Kim Davis and ask Judge Bunning to compel her to obey his order.

  • 23. stevew999  |  September 14, 2015 at 11:27 am

    Here's a pic
    https://twitter.com/FairnessCamp/status/643448571

  • 24. Bruno71  |  September 14, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Kentucky Attorney General: The marriage licenses are valid http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/09/kentucky-attor

  • 25. GregInTN  |  September 14, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    Since the licenses are issued by a "Notary Public" rather than a Deputy Clerk, who gets the money for the licenses? Surely, Kim Davis' deeply held religious beliefs would not allow her office to keep the money.

  • 26. Mike_Baltimore  |  September 14, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    Not all 'notary public' officials, especially when it is official government business, charge a fee.

    I worked for the Federal Governent for several decades, and never was charged when I needed a notary public's signature. Of course, the notary public was almost always another government official (usually the secretary of the Division or Office Director, whom I learned very early on held the real powers of the Division or Office Director). I quickly learned to become very good friends with the secretaries!

    Ms. Davis might be like some of the people of a certain county in NC, though, expecting something (of value) for nothing.

  • 27. Steve27516  |  September 14, 2015 at 11:15 am

    I usually endeavor to eschew snarkiness, but I have to think that some quotation marks would be appropriate in the headline of this thread, given that Ms. Davis is still not performing her duties:

    KIm Davis is back "at work" …

  • 28. davepCA  |  September 14, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    I love it! If that was your idea of snarkiness, please feel free to indulge in more of the same any time : )

  • 29. GregInTN  |  September 14, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    Either quotes or changing it to "Kim Davis is back in the office"

  • 30. GregInTN  |  September 14, 2015 at 1:18 pm

    From Talking Points Memo:

    A lawyer for Kentucky clerk Kim Davis on Monday said that her legal team will file a new lawsuit against Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear (D), accusing him of failing to provide an accommodation for Davis.
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kim-davis-l

    It doesn't say whether this suit will be filed in state or Federal court. My understanding is that the clerks don't report to the Governor so I don't see why the Governor should be the one to provide an accommodation for the clerk.

  • 31. TDGrove  |  September 14, 2015 at 1:23 pm

    As best as I understand it, it is the Governor and the Legislature that has the authority to change the forms, which is most of what she is asking for.

  • 32. jjcpelayojr  |  September 14, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    Wasn't the accommodation already provided by removing her name off the forms?

    Jesse

  • 33. TDGrove  |  September 14, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    Whoever did that did it without authorization. This is part of the reason that their validity is questioned. (I think they are valid and if they aren't, Kim and the county may be subject to some serious lawsuits)

  • 34. jjcpelayojr  |  September 14, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    Her son is also not issuing licenses along with her, correct? Couldn't the other clerks file a lawsuit against her and her son for unequal treatment in duties (the main reason why nepotism isn't allowed in most workplaces)?

    Jesse

  • 35. guitaristbl  |  September 14, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    Even if it wasn't under what law the governor HAS to call the legislature to change a law that dictates the duties of a county clerk simply because that county clerk does not want to perform those duties ?
    Who will pay the costs for calling a special legislative session for THREE out of 120 county clerks ? Davis by the money she will make from her book "me the poor christian martyr and my days in prison" ?

  • 36. Mike_Baltimore  |  September 14, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    Even the 'Americans wth Disabilities Act' (ADA) does not require accommodation, but rather 'reasonable accommodation'.

    Kim Davis thinks she is of more importance than the ADA?

  • 37. jcmeiners  |  September 14, 2015 at 4:39 pm

    Actually, that's exactly what her argument boils down to. Religion trumps everything in her mind. Plus, she sees herself as "factually unable to issue the licenses". I suppose that's a more severe impairment than almost any disability. All handicapped people I know would find a way to issue a license, even if they don't have full use of their hands.

  • 38. VIRick  |  September 14, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    "Factually unable" means she is physically incapable, either because she lacks sufficient motor skills and/or enough physical dexterity and/or stamina to do her job. If such were truly the case, then she really ought to resign so that someone else who is "factually able" can complete the many assorted tasks at hand.

    "Factually unable" does NOT indicate mental impairment, the actual problem in Kim Davis' case.

  • 39. sfbob  |  September 14, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    I suppose "mental impairment" would be appropriate if you defineit as "infantile tantrum based on inability or refusal to distinguish herself as an individual from her official title and office and a refusal to understand the difference between civil and religious marriage." Perhaps some sort of learning disability. Otherwise I wouldn't even allow Davis to claim "mental impairment" of an excuse.

  • 40. VIRick  |  September 14, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    Bob, I think we're both being too kind.

  • 41. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 14, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    I get the impression that Davis is only the puppet, and Matt Davis is the puppeteer pulling all her strings. She doesn't strike me as bright enough to be the one to come up with altering the licences to read "issued pursuant to Federal Court Order ###".

    Now that she's had a taste of prison and it's not just theoretical any more, Staver may have a harder time convincing Davis to contravene the Federal Court. Martyrdom isn't all it's cracked up to be… I hope she and Mr. Davis begin to see that they are nothing more than Liberty Counsel's patsy. When they've lost all the way up to SCOTUS and the media and Huxterby stop coming around, Staver will leave her high and dry, rotting in prison while he walks out of town looking for more religious ambulances to chase.

  • 42. ebohlman  |  September 14, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    The reasonable accommodation provisions in Section 1 (employment) of the ADA and its accompanying regulations are actually mostly based on the religious accommodation provisions in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. Same definition of what's "reasonable", for example.

  • 43. Mike_Baltimore  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    As I understand it (and apparently most judges), reasonable accommodation pertains almost entirely to the cost.

    Because of my inherited corneal disease (Fuch's Endothelial Corneal Dystrophy, or FECD), I am sensitive to yellowish light (not all with FECD are as sensitive to it as I am – most are sensitive to fluorescent lights, but I have no problem with them), and when cheap light bulbs were placed in my office, they emitted a yellowish glare. I teared up within minutes of their being turned on.

    I volunteered to provide adequate 'cool-white' bulbs as long as the Building Association put them in the sockets. The Building Association refused until I was ready to file a law suit under the ADA, then they agreed. (Their legal counsel convinced them it would be cheaper to change light bulbs than face a law suit).

  • 44. VIRick  |  September 14, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    In "Jernigan v. Crane," the Arkansas marriage case in federal court, the 8th Circuit Court has awarded $7,463.75 to the plaintiffs' attorneys for the appeal-related fees before the 8th Circuit Court. The order is here: http://files.eqcf.org/cases/15-1022-order-fees-an

    The Wagoner Law firm had asked for $12,897.50. The state Defendants argued that the most that should be awarded is $5,110. The order offers no explanation as to how the court determined the amount of the award.

    Also, relative to the same marriage case, but filed in district court, Cheryl Maples has filed a reply in support of the motion for separate attorney fees for her work on the case in district court. The Wagoner Law Firm has its own motion for district court fees pending. Cheryl Maples' reply is here: http://bit.ly/1iJLr1e

  • 45. VIRick  |  September 14, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    Mississippi Officials Defend State’s Anti-Gay Adoption Ban

    The governor and the attorney-general of Mississippi have both elected to defend in court their state law prohibiting same-sex couples from adopting children, disputing the notion that the nationwide ruling in favor of marriage equality renders Mississippi’s law unconstitutional. In a 23-page filing, in "Campaign for Southern Equality v. Mississippi Department of Human Services," Mississippi Attorney-General Jim Hood says the plaintiffs are “over-extending” the Supreme Court decision against state bans on same-sex marriage, and against the Defense of Marriage Act, by claiming that they also apply to Mississippi’s adoption ban.

    “Here, the Mississippi Legislature has concluded that dual-gender parenting is preferable and should be encouraged where possible by prohibiting adoption by same-gender couples,” Hood writes. In a separate three-page filing, Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant and Richard Berry, the executive director of the Mississippi Department of Human Services, announced that they support Hood in his defense of the adoption ban, and adopt all arguments in his filing.

    The lawsuit was filed last month by two LGBT advocacy groups, the Campaign for Southern Equality and the Family Equality Council, as well as by same-sex couples seeking to adopt in Mississippi. The state law that prohibits same-sex couples from adopting is considered the last among its kind in the United States, and was enacted by the legislature in 2000.

    Hood filed his brief in defense of the law in response to a request from the LGBT advocacy groups calling on District Court Judge Daniel Jordan III to issue a preliminary injunction against the anti-gay statute. http://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/09/14/mississ

  • 46. davepCA  |  September 14, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    …and the clean-up continues….

  • 47. Sagesse  |  September 15, 2015 at 3:48 am

    Cretins.

  • 48. SethInMaryland  |  September 14, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    "Here, the Mississippi Legislature has concluded that dual-gender parenting is preferable and should be encouraged where possible by prohibiting adoption by same-gender couples" That one line right there destroys their entire defense. The judge will see that as so prejudice he eat it up

  • 49. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 15, 2015 at 6:32 am

    Will just depend on the judge. Is he/she liberal or ultra conservative?

  • 50. VIRick  |  September 14, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    Texas: 2500 Marriage Licenses Issued to Same-Sex Couples in First 10 Weeks

    Per the AP:

    Texas has issued an estimated 2,500 marriage licenses to same-sex couples since the practice was legalized following Obergefell, nearly 6 percent of all marriage licenses statewide during that time interval, according to state estimates. Although applications no longer include gender identifiers, officials base their estimate on “what we can assume from the applicants’ names,” Carrie Williams, spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, told the Fort Worth "Star-Telegram."

    The agency maintains vital records for the state and notes about 43,500 marriage applications since 26 June 2015, the day the US Supreme Court swept away same-sex marriage bans in Texas and other states. In Tarrant County (Ft. Worth), officials received almost 3,500 applications, with about 300 from same-sex couples, a rate of almost 9 percent, the newspaper reported.

    As has happened in many other states, it’s expected that the rate of same-sex couples seeking marriage licenses in Texas will fall off now that the initial pent-up demand has been met. http://www.joemygod.com/2015/09/14/texas-2500-sam

  • 51. stevew999  |  September 14, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    Interestingly, I noticed that the KY marriage license form has fields for "Father" and "Mother" of the spouses-to-be. I suppose that in 15-20 years, they might figure out that those fields will have to be made gender-neutral, as well, once the children of same-sex spouses start to get married 🙂

  • 52. A_Jayne  |  September 14, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    Many children of same-sex spouses are old enough to marry now. They need to figure it out soon…

  • 53. Mike_Baltimore  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    Forgetting Zack Wahls of Iowa?

    He was 19 in early February 2011, which would mean he is at least 23 now.

    In case you've forgotten about him, here is a YouTube clip that might remind you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSQQK2Vuf9Q

  • 54. davepCA  |  September 14, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    Yup. I know several same sex couples whose kids are already married, and some of these same sex couples are already grandparents. Keep in mind that in many cases, these couples were of course already together and raising their kids long before they were legally allowed to marry, so in many cases their kids were already old enough to legally marry even BEFORE the same sex parents were allowed to legally marry.

  • 55. stevew999  |  September 14, 2015 at 11:20 pm

    Didn't know about those cases…I was thinking more of couples who have children after they get married, or have children when they get married and process the adoption papers (exactly like opposite-sex marriages). I didn't mean to be exclusive at all, only to point out that states need to scrub ALL of their forms which involve marriage (adoption paperwork, marriage licenses, employee benefits forms, death certificates, what have you) to make them gender-neutral, and in at least this case, they weren't very careful with the changes in the form. That's all.

    I'm sure they'll all get fixed eventually, it's just surprising that they missed that on the single most discussed form of all…

  • 56. davepCA  |  September 15, 2015 at 1:10 am

    Oh I agree, this is just yet another example of some of the 'tidying up' that will still need to be done as a result of nation-wide civil marriage for same sex couples. In the big picture, I think it's a pretty good 'problem' to have : )

  • 57. tx64jm  |  September 15, 2015 at 5:17 am

    Why would they need to be gender neutral? Every child has a father and mother … the purpose of those fields is allow the tracing of lineage. And thats very important when people are carrying genes for things like multiple sclerosis, or breast cancer … it is very important to be able to trace the lineage of a child. Making those forms gender-neutral only hinders that ability.

    For instance, as a son of the american revolution, I had to be able to trace my lineage all the way back to the revolutionary war. (I am directly blood-related to Benjamin Harrison, former president of the USA, and Burr Harrison, who fought in the revolutionary war ). It would have been extremely difficult to trace my lineage for historical purposes if the fields on these historical documents are gender neutral.

  • 58. Eric  |  September 15, 2015 at 8:30 am

    wouldnt sperm and egg donor be more appropriate labels on the form then? And, medical history?

  • 59. stevew999  |  September 15, 2015 at 8:52 am

    Because a birth certificate is used for a lot more than just genealogy. But I've never had to provide one to a medical provider for anything like assessing risks of cancer…they usually just ask me for family history.

    What do adopted children have on their birth certificate now? What about children conceived via artificial insemination?

  • 60. bayareajohn  |  September 15, 2015 at 10:58 am

    Great point that should guide this – what are the rules now for adopted and donor sperm or surrogate mother birth certificates? Likely varied per state. But the result of what's on the cert ought not to be differently handled or calculated because of a SSM vs a DSM…

  • 61. Zack12  |  September 15, 2015 at 10:06 am

    How nice, your family history lesson is just another way for you to push your bigotry.

  • 62. Tony MinasTirith  |  September 15, 2015 at 10:35 am

    and pump his Ego! It's all hearsay that he can't substantiate anyway. He can say he's Elvis Presley's love child if he wants…doesn't make it so.

  • 63. JayJonson  |  September 15, 2015 at 11:07 am

    It also reveals his naivete. Does he really believe that birth certificates are accurate as far as paternity? The reason the law assumes that a husband is the father of children born to a married woman is precisely because that is often not the case in fact. I rather doubt that tx64jm's lineage is definitively established by the carefully collected birth certificates of his alleged ancestors. Likely a lot of his illustrious forebears named in the birth certtificates had some help from some of the menial workers on the family plantations. DNA is far more accurate if biological relationships are more important than legal ones.

  • 64. Mike_Baltimore  |  September 15, 2015 at 10:37 am

    Sons of the American Revolution, Daughters of the American Revolution, Sons of the Confederacy, etc., are ALL voluntary organizations, and can make or unmake their rules rather easily when compared to the US. (BTW – I am eligible for the 'Sons of the … ' groups, but haven't joined, and won't join, as the leadership [and most membership] is too racist, bigoted, and misogynist for my tastes).

    And birth certificates, death certificates, marriage certificates, etc., are useful in predicting when/where schools are needed, if hospitals are needed, general location of where people live so new roads, if needed, can be built, etc. They are helpful for genealogical research, but what did people in the US do prior to 1790, when the first census was taken?

  • 65. tornado163  |  September 15, 2015 at 11:50 am

    I suppose it depends on context. Is the marriage license asking about biological parents or legal parents? I imagine it's mostly about legal parents for things like next of kin, inheritance, and whatnot. But it could be biological to look out for incest / cousin marriage.

    On the other hand, if your doctor asks if you have a family history of heart disease, that's solely asking about your biological parents, not adoptive/step-parents.

  • 66. VIRick  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    Suman 224 Bodas Gay en Un Año en Coahuila
    (224 Same-Sex Marriages in Coahuila in One Year)

    A un año de aprobarse las bodas entre personas del mismo sexo, en Coahuila se han celebrado 224 enlaces. Saltillo es el municipio en donde se celebraron la mayor parte con el 50 por ciento, seguido por la Región Centro y Laguna. A la fecha, no se realizaron divorcios, informa "Siglo Coahuila."

    El activista, Noé Ruiz, indicó que la reforma al Código Civil de Coahuila, abrió la puerta para que muchas parejas puedan exigir se reconozcan sus derechos. “Tenemos el caso de una pareja de Chihuahua que se casaron en Saltillo hace un par de meses y ya pudieron tramitar su crédito INFONAVIT para comprar una casa”, dijo Noé Ruiz. “En Monterrey, otra pareja de chicas logró el reconocimiento de sus derechos ante el Instituto Mexicano del Seguro Social." En el caso de Coahuila, indicó que prevalece el miedo a realizar estos trámites, por temor a los prejuicios y discriminación.

    La Comunidad Gay de Coahuila celebró el primer año de la aprobación de matrimonios entre personas del mismo sexo, con una boda comunitaria igualitaria. La ceremonia se realizó en la sala Emilio Indio Fernández de la Secretaría de Cultura. Esta es la primera vez que una boda comunitaria igualitaria logra reunir parejas homosexuales y heterosexuales. En esta occasion, el juez Víctor Hugo Dávila, ofició el enlace de 17 parejas, entre ellas 8 de mujeres, 2 de hombres, y 7 de heterosexuales, provenientes de Nuevo León, Oaxaca, Tamaulipas, y Coahuila.

    (In Coahuila, one year after the approval of the marriage between same-sex couples, there were 224 such marriages. Saltillo is the municipality where the majority were held, followed by the Central and Laguna Region. To date, no divorces have taken place, reports "Siglo Coahuila."

    The activist, Noé Ruiz, said that the reform of the Civil Code of Coahuila opened the door for many couples to have their rights recognized. "Take the case of a pair from Chihuahua who married in Saltillo a couple of months ago and could now process their credit with INFONAVIT to buy a house," said Noé Ruiz. "In Monterrey, another couple achieved the recognition of their rights with the Mexican Social Security Institute." In the case of Coahuila, he said there was a prevailing fear of performing these procedures, lest they encounter prejudice and discrimination.

    Coahuila's gay community celebrated the first year since the approval of marriages between same-sex couples with an egalitarian community marriage. The ceremony was held at the Emilio Indio Fernández hall of the Ministry of Culture. This is the first time that the egalitarian community brought together the simultaneous marriages of both homosexual and heterosexual couples. Judge Victor Hugo Dávila officiated over 17 couples, 8 of women, 2 of men, and 7 heterosexual, from Nuevo León, Oaxaca, Tamaulipas, and Coahuila.)

    Note how same-sex couples are continuing to come to Coahuila from neighboring states in order to be married there. http://entrelineas.com.mx/mexico/2015/09/13/suman

  • 67. Zack12  |  September 15, 2015 at 4:33 am

    For the time being, it appears Malcolm Turnbull is sticking with his party's plan to not allow a vote in parliment and instead take it to voters.
    Let's hope that changes once the dust settles.

  • 68. scream4ever  |  September 15, 2015 at 5:04 am

    Advocates are already meeting with him today. I have hope a free vote will be allowed, if nothing else due to how supportive the general public is, and also for the Liberals to try and win back support for next year's election.

  • 69. Alphazip  |  September 15, 2015 at 11:36 am

    He says "no" to a free vote: http://www.samesame.com.au/news/12754/PM-Turnbull

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