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The ACLU filed a motion alleging that Rowan County clerk Kim Davis’ alteration of marriage licenses may have invalidated them.


  • 1. VIRick  |  September 22, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    Equal Marriage Proposal Accepted by Jersey States Assembly

    In the Channel Islands, the equal marriage proposal, debated by the Jersey States Assembly today, 22 September 2015, has just been accepted. All four parts of the proposal were overwhelmingly passed. The same-sex marriage part received 37 votes for and 4 votes against, with one member abstaining.

    It has also been agreed to be able to automatically pass parental responsibility on to fathers who are unmarried but are on a child's birth certificate. Divorce law will also change; couples must go through mediation, where appropriate, before a divorce is granted.

    The draft legislation, which will detail all the above laws, must be presented to the Jersey States Assembly no later than January 2017. Once the marriage equality legislation has been finalized, civil partnerships will be able to be converted. In Jersey, there has been 57 civil partnerships between same-sex couples from when they were first introduced in April 2012 until the end of 2014.

  • 2. Sagesse  |  September 22, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    U.S. State Department Will No Longer Talk About 'LGBT Rights' [NCRM]

  • 3. ianbirmingham  |  September 22, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    …The U.S. government has traded in the term "LGBT rights" in favor of using "sexual rights" in its discussions about human rights. Many LGBT rights groups have long advocated for the change, feeling the struggle for sexual liberation should not be centered around one particular group, but about the universal rights of everyone when it comes to sex and gender.

    The U.S. announced the change at a meeting at the United Nations this week. A statement released by the State Department explained that, going forward, they will use the term "sexual rights" to mean: "…the right to have control over and decide freely and responsibly on matters related to their sexuality, including sexual and reproductive health, free of coercion, discrimination, and violence." …

  • 4. ianbirmingham  |  September 22, 2015 at 6:10 pm

    In a moment of candor no doubt brought on by some personal animosity, Martin Shkreli let down his guard on Sunday and told me exactly why he hiked the price of a 62-year-old drug [used by babies & AIDS patients] by more than 5000%.

    "It's a great business decision that also benefits all of our stakeholders," Shkreli told me on Twitter. "I don't expect the likes of you to process that." He then called me a moron, and later bragged about flipping off the media.

    So there you have it. The unvarnished truth. It was a business decision. It was about money. And screw you.

    Come Monday morning, though, as his blunt remark started to blow up on Reddit and Gawker and Twitter and Hillary Clinton started discussing price controls, talk about business decisions and flipping off reporters didn't quite fit the protocols of damage control. And Shkreli adopted the same pious defense that all industry execs turn to when the mood gets harsh.

    Instantly, Shkreli transformed into a paradigm of virtue. The move to raise the price of Daraprim from $13.50 a pill to $750 days after buying control of the medicine was all done for patients. The money would finance precious research into vitally needed new drugs that would benefit suffering individuals.

    While raucous Web groups were letting him have it, it was amazing to me how often the most prestigious media outlets in the country gave him a pass, even after he had provided them with a statement of unequivocal defiance. …

    I'm sure that some execs would tell a cop they ordered the Uber driver to double-park on Fifth Avenue to help benefit patients. It's no wonder that Shkreli, once again in the hot seat for profiteering on old drugs, did the same thing. … it shouldn't be allowed for execs like Shkreli, who is using the country's no-holds-barred policy on drug prices to generate some fast cash. …

  • 5. ianbirmingham  |  September 22, 2015 at 10:09 pm

    Palm Beach County [FL] Commissioners have unanimously voted to expand civil rights protections for minorities by redefining "places of public accommodation" in the Palm Beach County Ordinance for Equal Opportunity to Housing and Places of Public Accommodation. The vote, which passed in a 6-0 decision, was held Tuesday morning.

    Specifically, the amendment will now mean that it is prohibited to discriminate not only in hotels or restaurants — which the original ordinance was written for — but also in retail stores and other places of business throughout the county. …

    Now, thanks to Tuesday's vote, the county commissioners have expanded the definition of public accommodation to include retail stores, schools, daycare and senior centers, medical offices, funeral homes, bakeries, laundromats, and virtually all other places of business throughout the county.

    "Since there is no statewide law covering discrimination in retail stores, the ordinance passed today is clearly the most significant civil rights law passed in Palm Beach County in decades," says Hoch. "Allowing store owners to choose their customers based on prejudice deprives shoppers of the freedom to walk into a store that seems to be open the general public and get served like everybody else." … under the new ordinance, a bakery that refuses a gay or lesbian couple service may be subject to not only litigation but a fine of up to $50,000.

    "In Palm Beach County, businesses engaged in commerce will no longer be allowed to refuse service based on a person's race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or any other protected classes," Hoch says. …

  • 6. VIRick  |  September 22, 2015 at 10:21 pm

    The Dominican Republic: ‘Girls’ who Grow Penises at the Age of 12

    Although I've previously been aware of this genetic intersex condition clustered in one specific area of the Dominican Republic, anyone who still thinks that gender is an either/or proposition needs to read and understand this reality:

    In a village in the Dominican Republic, an estimated one in fifty children are born ‘girls’ before growing male genitalia during puberty. The children are known as guevedoces, roughly translated as “penis-at-12,” referring to the age when their physical appearance starts to change.

    This extraordinary intersex condition, known medically as 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, has been documented for a new BBC2 series ‘Countdown to Life’ which takes a look at how we develop in the womb and how early changes impact us for the rest of our lives.

    Many children who live in the village of Salinas, located in the southern part of the Dominican Republic, are effected by the condition, with as many as 1 in 50 boys in the area being raised as girls until they went on to develop external testes and a penis. At birth, they have nothing except what appears to be a vagina, and it is only as they mature that it becomes apparent all is not as it seems.

    Dr Julianne Imperato-McGinley, originally investigated the phenomenon in the early 1970s. Dr Imperato found that while genetically male, guevedoces lack the enzyme, 5-alpha reductase, that converts testosterone to dihydro-testosterone and helps form the penis.

    This means that (some) boys in the area are born looking like females. However, when they hit puberty, and the body is flooded with another surge of testosterone, the body this time responds and the penis develops and testes descend.

    Read more about when Felicita became Johnny here:

    Although not mentioned in the article, many/most guevedoces turn out to be gay, and are as cute as anyone could want,– in fact, almost too cute for words.

  • 7. jpmassar  |  September 23, 2015 at 9:43 am

    Ireland: Laws to officially pave the way for [same-sex] civil marriage were introduced in the Dáil today, after May's historical yes vote.

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