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There still doesn’t seem to be much going on in LGBT legal news.

– In Alabama, probate judges are using a law that was created to retain racial segregation in order to refuse to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

– Via Equality Case Files, the plaintiffs in the Kansas marriage case filed a bunch of exhibits intending to show that the state still isn’t issuing birth certificates as required after the Supreme Court invalidated marriage bans.

This is an open thread.


  • 1. Car_Pool_Cookie  |  October 6, 2015 at 11:01 am

    Gay priest comes out, immediatey fired by Vatican. Maybe it's time for the Pope to put his money where his mouth is, and intercede on behalf of the supposed "tolerance" he preaches?

  • 2. ebohlman  |  October 6, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    The priest said he had a partner; that would also be cause for firing if he were straight.

  • 3. aiislander  |  October 6, 2015 at 10:58 pm

    Not to mention that he had reportedly announced he was orchestrating a public demonstration against Vatican policy on the issue timed to embarrass the holy see to maximum effect. I can't imagine that he had the slightest illusion that he would not be summarily fired. The surprise is that he (as of yet, at least) hasn't been summarily defrocked and ex-communicated.

  • 4. jpmassar  |  October 6, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    "Obergefell decision does not even apply to Alabama":

    On his radio program today, Bryan Fischer interviewed Alabama Supreme Court Justice Tom Parker, a former Religious Right activist and aide to Chief Justice Roy Moore who has become a radical justice in his own right, for two segments about the Supreme Court's gay marriage ruling earlier this year.

    After making the case that the Obergefell decision does not even apply to Alabama, Parker absurdly asserted that the Supreme Court had no grounds upon which to issue the decision in the first place because gays are not being denied equal treatment under the law since everyone is free to marry someone of the opposite sex.

    As such, Parker said, it is imperative that state supreme courts stand up to the U.S. Supreme Court in defiance of its ruling in this case in order to foment a "revival" that will return this nation to its founding principles.

    "The states should be a check on the federal government," he said, "and the proper organ within a state to do that versus the U.S. Supreme Court would be a state supreme court. Now, I doubt that it would be a blanket defiance of all jurisdiction on the U.S. Supreme Court, but in regards to the Obergefell decision where it's clear that they jumped outside of the precedents in order to impose their will on this country, that yes, resisting that decision could maybe start a revival of what we need in this country and return to our original founding principles."
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  • 5. davepCA  |  October 6, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    That's quite an amusing little manifesto he is presenting. The disconnect from basic facts and logic and reality is just astounding.

  • 6. Mike_Baltimore  |  October 6, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    ". . . Parker absurdly asserted that the Supreme Court had no grounds upon which to issue the decision in the first place because gays are not being denied equal treatment under the law since everyone is free to marry someone of the opposite sex."

    Since whites were free to marry opposite sex whites, African-Americans were free to marry opposite sex African-Americans, Native Americans were free to marry opposite sex Native Americans, etc., I'm sure Parker is of the opinion that the 'Loving' decision was illegal also?

    I wonder what his definition of bigot is?

  • 7. David_Las_Cruces_NM  |  October 6, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    Some people don't need a dictionary or a text book to see bigotry. . . only a short walk down the hall to the little room with a mirror.

  • 8. Montezuma58_1  |  October 6, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    Parker is more unhinged than Roy Moore. Parker just manages to stay out of the spotlight unlike Moore.

  • 9. David_Las_Cruces_NM  |  October 6, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    Mythology motivated self-deception would be so, so funny if it didn't hurt real people.

  • 10. VIRick  |  October 6, 2015 at 5:07 pm

    Headline of the Day:

    Kim Davis Gets Offer To Do Interracial Lesbian Porn

    The parent company of an interracial lesbian porn site called Zebra Girls has offered Kim Davis a $500,000 contract to do a single scene. From their press release:

    With all the controversy surrounding Rowan County and Kentucky clerk Kim Davis’ refusal to issue same sex marriage licenses even after the Supreme Court of the United States made same-sex marriage the law of the land, The Dogfart Network, which is the leading online destination for Adult Interracial content, is offering the Holy Kim Davis a chance at redemption. The undisputed kings of interracial porn are dangling $500k to star in a scene for their site,, which is one of 23 sites in the company’s vast Adult Entertainment Empire. specializes in Lesbian Interracial Erotica. “We here at Dogfart have always believed in equality. We have interracial sites, gay sites, straight sites, and we think Kim Davis has been appalling,” said a Dogfart Spokesman. “We are giving her a chance at a redemption. We are willing to drop half a million bucks for Kim to come out to our studio and shoot an Interracial Lesbian scene for our network.” The offer will stand for the next week. She is also welcome to bring her family with her on an all-expense-paid vacation.

    Considering the inevitable biopic, books, and speaking tours, $500K probably won’t come close to the cascade of Jesus Bucks coming the way of Kim Davis.

  • 11. guitaristbl  |  October 7, 2015 at 11:22 am

    Oh yeah the cash has just started flowing for Davis – plus she gets to keep her 80000 dollars a year for not doing her job since the legislature wont impeach her – and by the time of the next election she may have made enough to not even bother to run again (she will lose anyway imo).
    Other than that I get what the studio wants to do here but yuck who would want to watch that ?

  • 12. A_Jayne  |  October 7, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    How much would they have to pay a porn star to participate?

  • 13. VIRick  |  October 6, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    Malta: Best In Europe For LGBT Rights

    On 5 October 2015, Maltese Prime Minister Joseph Muscat tweeted his pride after his tiny island nation was ranked as the best in Europe on LGBT rights by ILGA-Europe. "Malta Today" reports:

    Malta has shot up to a historic first place in the International Lesbian-Gay Association’s ‘Rainbow Europe’ league for LGBTIQ rights, overtaking the United Kingdom and Belgium. According to the table, Malta grants 89% of the total rights due to LGBTIQ people, ahead of the UK (85.55%) and Belgium (82.3%). At the other end of the latest ILGA rankings lies Azerbaijan, who reportedly grants just 5% of the total rights due to LGBTI people, followed closely by Russia (8.35%) and Turkey (8.9%).

    See the rankings list for all 49 surveyed countries here:

  • 14. bayareajohn  |  October 6, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    Is anyone else seeing the SSL CERT WARNINGS when trying to use the links in the RECENT POSTS sections? uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: *,, *,, *, (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)

  • 15. davepCA  |  October 6, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    Yes. They're baaaa-aaaaaack……

    I started getting them again earlier today.

    Although I get a somewhat different 'warning'.

  • 16. F_Young  |  October 7, 2015 at 2:09 am

    Yes, Chrome for Windows Vista is getting:

    Your connection is not private

    Attackers might be trying to steal your information from (for example, passwords, messages or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID
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    This server could not prove that it is; its security certificate is from * This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection.

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  • 17. sfbob  |  October 7, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    I don't get that with Firefox but what happens is that if I click on one of the Recent Comments I show as not logged in and I also cannot log in; clicking the log-in link does nothing. But approaching things from the top of the page, there isn't any problem. So it seems as though the issue somehow resides within the Recent Comments.

  • 18. Zack12  |  October 6, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    On Alabama Justice Tom Parker, keep in mind he was the co-founder for the Alabama Family Alliance now known as the Alabama Policy Institute, the Focus On the Family hate group for that state.
    He is every bit of the bigot Roy Moore is and actually is worse in a way set he helped push for many of the anti-gay laws that exist in Alabama today.
    The fact he heard lawsuits from this group instead of recusing himself back in February was a joke, as are his statements now.
    He is an utter disgrace to the bench and should be removed along with Roy Moore.

  • 19. Montezuma58_1  |  October 6, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    Blount County, TN punts on their silly resolution. They adjourn off the bat.

  • 20. VIRick  |  October 6, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    Per Rex Wockner:

    Alaska: Anchorage Bans Anti-LGBT Discrimination in 9-2 Vote by Assembly

  • 21. VIRick  |  October 6, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    Virginia Marks First Anniversary of Same-Sex Marriage

    On 6 October 2015, Virginia Attorney-General Mark Herring said the commonwealth has issued 2,670 marriage licenses to same-sex couples over the past year. Herring made the announcement precisely a year to the day after gays and lesbians received marriage rights in Virginia. On 6 October 2014, the US Supreme Court announced it would not hear a case that challenged the commonwealth’s constitutional amendment banning marriage between same-sex couples. The decision not to accept the lawsuit also prompted Virginia to recognize same-sex marriages that had been legally performed in other jurisdictions.

    “That day, the constitutional right of Virginians to marry whomever they love was secured and loving couples and families across the commonwealth were able to unite under the law for the very first time,” said Herring in a statement. “It affirmed that Virginia is open and welcoming to all and that discrimination would not be tolerated, and no longer sanctioned by the commonwealth. Those are true Virginia values.”

    Herring also said Virginia over the last year has issued 70 birth certificates to (the off-spring of) same-sex couples.“That day was certainly groundbreaking, but the historic nature could not compare to the faces of people who could finally marry the one they loved, the mothers and fathers who would finally be named on their baby’s birth certificate, and the fact that love and our constitution prevailed,” said Herring.

    A year ago, he presided over the Richmond ceremony during which Carol Schall and Mary Townley, two of the plaintiffs in the case the US Supreme Court declined to hear, renewed their wedding vows. “On 6 October 2014, we won the simple and profound right to call each other family, to call the loves of our life ‘husband’ or ‘wife’ and to hear our children legally call us ‘mom’ or ‘dad,’” said Schall in the press release that Herring’s office released. “Same-gender families across Virginia now enjoy the legal ties that only marriage can bring.”

    James Parrish, executive director of Equality Virginia, a statewide LGBT advocacy group, also acknowledged the anniversary of marriage rights for same-sex couples in the commonwealth. “The legal argument was clear, denying marriage to couples only because of their genders is precisely the type of discrimination not allowed by the 14th Amendment,” said Parrish in an email to his group’s supporters.

    Virginia Republicans, the Family Foundation of Virginia, and other groups opposed to marriage rights for same-sex couples, blasted Herring’s decision not to defend the commonwealth’s ban on same-sex marriage that voters approved in 2006. A bill that would have allowed state lawmakers to defend the prohibition was killed earlier this year.

    Herring, who announced last month that he will seek re-election, noted that Virginia’s anti-discrimination laws do not include sexual orientation and gender identity. “All Virginians deserve to be treated with respect, dignity, and equality,” he said. “We will continue to fight against discrimination in the workplace, housing and wherever we find it.”

    See more at:

  • 22. VIRick  |  October 6, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    Maryland: Revised Birth Certificates Law Takes Effect

    A Maryland law that makes it easier for transgender and intersex people to legally change the gender on their birth certificates without surgery took effect on 1 October 2015.

    The law allows trans and intersex Marylanders to receive a new, and not an amended, birth certificate. It also allows those who wish to receive a new birth certificate to simply file paperwork with the Maryland Division of Vital Records, as opposed to obtaining a court order that declares their gender has changed.

    See more at:

  • 23. VIRick  |  October 6, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    Kim Davis Has Competition From Another Anti-Gay Kentucky Clerk

    Kim Davis may be the most famous anti-gay county clerk in Kentucky, but she's certainly not the only one. Kay Schwartz told Lexington TV station WYMT that marriage licenses in Whitley County are only for couples featuring a "bride and groom," and she's therefore refusing to provide the same services to same-sex couples.

    In addition to Davis in Rowan County and Schwartz in Whitley County, there is a third county clerk who is still defying direct orders from the governor and the US Supreme Court's June ruling mandating nationwide marriage equality. He is Casey County clerk Casey Davis (no relation to Kim Davis), and neither he nor Schwartz have been sued, thus far.

    But as WYMT reported, that could change. Heather L. Weaver, senior staff attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union's program on freedom of religion and belief, told the station:

    "Ms. Schwartz's plan to discriminate against same-sex couples blatantly violates the law. As a County Clerk, she must issue marriage licenses to all couples on equal terms. We are closely monitoring the situation…”

    Back in July, a rally was held in Williamsburg KY in support of Schwartz, during which the county clerk made no secret of her thoughts on marriage equality. “I would love to see it banned, but like I said, they have their right to their belief," said Schwartz according to WYMT. "I have my right to my belief. So whatever they can do to take it away from my office, then so be it."

  • 24. guitaristbl  |  October 7, 2015 at 11:25 am

    Wow she seems even more bigoted that Davis ! Will she be the next candidate to be a millionaire martyr ? Stay tuned !

  • 25. Bruno71  |  October 7, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Casey Davis has actually stated that, while no gay couples have requested a license, his office would handle it the same way as that other Davis in Rowan County. i.e. altering the licenses to make him feel less icky, but issue them nonetheless. I'd really like to see a gay couple test the waters in Whitley County, and see if this asshole puts her money where her mouth is.

  • 26. Bruno71  |  October 8, 2015 at 2:06 pm

    Today, many news outlets are reporting that Casey Davis will issue licenses only to straight couples. The source is the Casey County News:

    However, I'm not sure if Davis' quote means that no licenses will be issued to gay couples, or just that he himself won't issue them and would have a deputy do it. Either way, it appears no gay couples have even tried to get a license in Casey County to date.

  • 27. Mike_Baltimore  |  October 6, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    The city of Philadelphia is back in the news, and not for a good reason (such as a sports team win):

    'Men Attack, Shoot, Kill Transgender Woman in Philly'
    (… )

    The city of Philadelphia now has a hate crimes law. Hopefully it will be used if this incident was a hate crime as it sounds like it was.

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