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Equality news round-up: News from Ireland and Kentucky

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Kentucky state seal– In the Kim Davis case, state officials have filed a brief stating that they will recognize marriages performed even using the altered licenses, but also they’re not the official arbiters of whether the licenses are totally valid.

– Ireland officially has marriage equality.

– Jim Obergefell endorsed Hillary Clinton for president.

Thanks to Equality Case Files for these filings


  • 1. Rakihi  |  November 16, 2015 at 9:19 am

    Ted Cruz and the Anti-Gay Pastor

    "When presidential candidates court support among the audience of a pastor who openly discusses the extermination of millions of their fellow citizens, why is this not major news?"

    Why, indeed!

  • 2. gay_avenger  |  November 16, 2015 at 11:25 am

    Let's label their rhetoric for what it is, Radical Christianity – not much different than the radical jihadist movement.

  • 3. DrPatrick1  |  November 16, 2015 at 9:23 am

    There can be no rule of law whilst Ms Davis openly defies KY law, the U.S. constitution, and a federal court order. Throw her ass in jail, grant revised and lawful licenses, and release her only upon completion of her term in office, least she continue to deny the constitutional rights of her fellow citizens!

  • 4. VIRick  |  November 16, 2015 at 11:08 am

    INDIANA: Haters To Rally Against Non-Existent LGBT Rights Bill At Opening Of General Assembly

    Tomorrow, 17 November 2015, Pastor Ron Johnson and busloads of fellow haters will descend upon the Indiana Statehouse during the ceremonial first day of the legislative session. They will be there just in case anybody tries to pull a fast one and grant LGBT Hoosiers the same civil rights enjoyed by Christians. The "Northwest Indiana Times" reports:

    The Indiana Pastors Alliance, led by Ron Johnson, pastor of Crown Point’s Living Stones Church, is bringing at least two busloads and several caravans of privately-owned vehicles filled with Hoosiers who believe LGBT protections will infringe on their religious liberty. At least some of those people will have been motivated by two widely-shared Internet videos featuring Eric Miller, executive director of the pro-family group Advance America, warning of an Organization Day “sneak attack” by lawmakers in favor of LGBT protections. While it is technically possible to enact legislation in one day, both House Speaker Brian Bosma, R-Indianapolis, and Senate President David Long, R-Fort Wayne, have declared there is no “sneak attack” planned, and no proposals will be considered tomorrow.

  • 5. RnL2008  |  November 16, 2015 at 11:27 am

    Thank you Rick and everyone else for the information.

    DrPatrick1, I totally agree…….Kim Davis NEEDS to be in jail UNTIL such time as she is EITHER willing to do her job or resign……..I mean she is a menace and as long as she remains free and NOT being forced to comply……others will take that as a sign that it is okay and will try it themselves…….that's UNACCEPTABLE!!!

    Rick, Haters will typically ALWAYS hate and these folks need to understand that they are the ONES making an issue out of NOTHING……..if they AREN'T careful, someone just might file an amendment to restrict their CHOSEN freedom of religion……after all, one's religious beliefs AREN'T innate, but clearly a choice and if Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals and Transgenders can't have the rights they deserve, then maybe it's time to squash their religious freedoms. Just saying…

  • 6. VIRick  |  November 16, 2015 at 11:45 am

    These ridiculous folks from Crown Point's Living Stones Church (which ought to be re-named Crown Point's Mindless Sheep Church), have to be extremely "low information" fools if they do not understand that the ceremonial opening day of the legislative session means that it is to be the ceremonial opening day of the legislative session, and instead, "feel the need" to bus themselves half way across the state just to "be there."

  • 7. RnL2008  |  November 16, 2015 at 11:51 am

    I totally agree with ya…….and let's bus folks in who probably AREN'T even residents of the State…….just to make a showing of how foolish you all are.

    It's like the Million Mom group who wants to boycott Campbell's soup over the two dad's commercial, yet they WON'T boycott air, which also supports us,…….hypocrites!!!

  • 8. VIRick  |  November 16, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    "…. yet they WON'T boycott air, which also supports us,…….hypocrites!!!"

    Yay Rose!! That's precious!

  • 9. RnL2008  |  November 16, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    I wish these anti-gay folks would just do us all a favor and boycott air……the world would be a better place!!!

  • 10. Mike_Baltimore  |  November 16, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    Especially when the state constitution states that the legislative session begins on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in January and gives the exact number of days and final day the legislature can meet during even (30 days and March 15) and odd numbered years (61 days and April 30).

    The exception is when the governor calls the legislature into special session, which he has not.

    Legislation passed outside those limiters is null and void.

    (Section 4 of the 1851 Indiana state constitution, the current, though amended, state constitution.)

  • 11. Mike_Baltimore  |  November 16, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    ". . .one's religious beliefs AREN'T innate, but clearly a choice. . . ."

    My mother and second step-father are an example of this –

    My mother originally was in the Wesleyan Methodist Church, then Church of Christ (Disciples of Christ), then Church of the Brethren.

    My second step-father originally was in the Lutheran Church (originally the LCA, now the ELCA), then Church of the Brethren.

    And the neutered one (Gingrich) originally was a Southern Baptist, now is a Latin Rite Catholic.

  • 12. RnL2008  |  November 16, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    I'd agree….see my stepmother has changed her religious beliefs each time she changes who husbands and she's done that 3 times. Going from a Baptist to a Catholic and now Jewish………and she has more rights protected than I do just because of who I am!!!

  • 13. VIRick  |  November 16, 2015 at 3:05 pm

    Per Equality Case Files and Ben Winslow of Fox13 in Salt Lake City:

    As of late today, 16 November 2015, Judge Scott Johansen, the Utah state judge embroiled in the same-sex foster parent case, has recused himself from the case, very possibly, in part, because of:

    Per AP:

    Group Seeks Removal of Utah Judge in Same-Sex Foster Parent Case

    Salt Lake City — A watchdog group is calling for the impeachment of a Utah judge who had ordered a baby taken away from lesbian foster parents and placed with a heterosexual couple.

    Early today, 16 November 2015, the Alliance for a Better Utah called for state lawmakers to begin removal proceedings against Judge Scott Johansen. The state’s legislative session begins on 25 January 2016.

    Johansen reversed his 10 November order after it was widely criticized, but he could still have had the baby removed from the couple’s home at a 4 December hearing.

    Group founder Josh Kanter points to the judge’s previous controversial conduct, including a 1995 reprimand from the Utah Judicial Conduct Commission after he slapped a 16-year-old boy.

  • 14. VIRick  |  November 16, 2015 at 3:18 pm

    Per Equality Case Files:

    And here's yet another custody case, this one heading to the US Supreme Court, on petition from a ruling made by the illustrious Alabama Supreme Court:

    The National Center for Lesbian Rights has taken up the case, "E.L. v. V.L.," in which the Alabama Supreme Court refused to recognize a lesbian mother's legal adoption of her three children previously granted by a Georgia state court. The woman (identified only as "V.L." in court documents) has asked the US Supreme Court to review the decision, and also to issue an order allowing her to visit her children while her appeal is pending. The petition and application, as well as the earlier Alabama decisions, are available at the NCLR post linked below.

    "On November 16, 2015, V.L. asked the US Supreme Court to review the Alabama Supreme Court decision. She also asked the US Supreme Court for an emergency order permitting her to visit her children while her appeal is pending. In her request, V.L. notes that the Alabama Supreme Court’s decision is unprecedented. Before this ruling, no state supreme court in the country had refused to recognize a same-sex parent’s adoption from another state, or any out-of-state adoption, based on a disagreement with how the court issuing the adoption interpreted its own adoption laws."

    In other words, according to the petition, Georgia law, or rather, the Georgia state court's interpretation of Georgia law, trumps the Alabama Supreme Court's interpretation of Georgia law.

    Still, on 18 September 2015, breaking with long-established precedent, the Alabama Supreme Court, Roy Moore in-charge, blissfully ruled that Alabama can treat the adoption as void based on the Alabama Supreme Court’s view that the Georgia court should not have granted the adoption in 2007.

    Question: When did Alabama obtain jurisdiction over Georgia so as to be in a position to interpret Georgia law?

  • 15. VIRick  |  November 16, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    Per Equality Case Files:

    Today, 16 November 2015, in "Love v. Johnson," a federal case challenging Michigan's policy for changing gender markers on driver's licenses, the judge has denied the state's motion to dismiss the lawsuit, allowing the case to proceed.

    "For the reasons discussed more fully below, the Court finds that Plaintiffs have raised a cognizable privacy claim under the Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution. The Court further declines to address the substantive merit of Plaintiffs' remaining claims on the principle of judicial restraint. Accordingly, Defendant's motion is DENIED."

    In simple terms, the judge says that at least one of the plaintiffs' claims that, if proved, would constitute a violation of the US Constitution, so the lawsuit will go forward.

    ORDER: Motion to Dismiss Denied:

    By the way, is it just my warped mind, or does this case-name, "Love v. Johnson," imply a sly double-entendre? You know, do you like/want "Love," or do you just like/want "Johnson?"

  • 16. VIRick  |  November 16, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    And more "Love," per Equality Case Files:

    In "Love/Bourke v. Beshear," the consolidated Kentucky Marriage cases which went all the way to the US Supreme Court, we now have the completed briefing on the Plaintiffs' motion for attorney fees and costs, in which they are asking for $2,091,297.34:

    • Plaintiffs’ Second motion for Attorney Fees and Costs is here:
    [Amended attachment D (105-5) is here:
    • Governor Beshear's Response:
    • Plaintiffs' Reply:

    The state has already separately paid out $260,000 for hiring private counsel for its defense during the appeal.

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