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The Seventh Circuit has agreed to rehear Hively v. Ivy Tech, a case involving discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation under federal law. The original panel’s decision ruled against the employee. This time, all judges on the court will hear the case. The EEOC has asked to be able to participate in the oral argument, which will take place on November 30.

In other news, today the Supreme Court is holding a private conference to decide whether to grant petitions, and one of the cases for the conference today is Gloucester County School Board v. GG, involving a transgender teenager who’s barred from using the bathroom at his school.

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Thanks to Equality Case Files for these filings


  • 1. VIRick  |  October 14, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    United States to Appeal "State of Texas v. United States"

    Per Equality Case Files:

    As of today, 14 October 2016, in "State of Texas v. United States," one of two multi-state challenges to the federal government’s guidance on transgender students and employees, there has still not been a ruling from Judge O'Connor on the United States' motion to clarify the scope of the preliminary injunction. As a result, today, the United States informed the Court that it intends to appeal the injunction and will do so by the statutory deadline of 20 October.

    "Defendants would prefer not to file a notice of appeal while the Motion for Clarification is pending, but Defendants wish to advise the Court that they currently intend to file a protective notice of appeal on or before October 20, 2016 – sixty days after entry of the Court’s August 21, 2016 preliminary injunction – in order to ensure their ability to pursue a timely appeal of the preliminary injunction."

    Notice to the Court Regarding Appeal is here:

  • 2. VIRick  |  October 15, 2016 at 1:09 pm

    Dolly Parton Calls Out Christians to Stop Judging Gays

    Country crooner and pop icon Dolly Parton recently reiterated her love for the gay community in an interview on Larry King Live, where she chastised judgmental Christians. She told King that she sometimes gets pushback from Christian fans about her support of LGBTQ people. But, rather than dance around the issue, she calls them out on their un-Christian attitudes and behaviors.

    “I keep saying, ‘If you’re the fine Christian that you think you are, why are you judging people?’ That’s God’s job,” she explained. “We’re not God, we’re not judges, we’re supposed to love one another, we’re supposed to not judge.”

    Also not in humanity’s job description: vengeance. Parton said that God’s job, too. And while some people may just have too much time on their hands, she doesn’t have time for that. “I’ve got too much work to do on my own to try to do God’s work, too,” she explained.

    “I just think that we should be more loving, more caring. We are who we are,” Parton said. “If you’re gay, you’re gay. If you’re straight, you’re straight. And you should be allowed to be how you are and who you are.”

  • 3. VIRick  |  October 15, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    "Charlotte Observer" Endorses Cooper over McCrory

    The "Charlotte Observer" had endorsed Gov. Pat McCrory throughout his political career, but that streak has now come to an end. North Carolina's largest newspaper has backed the Republican candidate since 1991, but on Friday, 14 October 2016, the editorial staff broke with tradition to endorse Democrat Roy Cooper for the office of governor.

    "Voters have a superior option in Democrat Roy Cooper," the staff wrote in an editorial letter. "A Morehead Scholar at UNC, a former Senate majority leader and a four-term attorney-general, Cooper has the experience, the intelligence, and the policy stances needed to return the state to its stature as a progressive leader in the South."

    "That stature has been lost under McCrory," the letter continued. "While the state’s and nation’s attention has rightfully been focused on HB2 since spring, McCrory’s lack of leadership and wrong-headed policies have been on display since his first year in Raleigh.

    The Charlotte Observer listed the governor's continued defense of House Bill 2 as a key reason for the Southern state's loss of "stature." The legislation, signed into law by McCrory in March, bans transgender people from accessing public facilities like bathrooms and locker rooms that correspond with their gender identity. It also eliminates all existing LGBT-inclusive nondiscrimination ordinances in the state, and prohibits cities from adopting any new ones.

  • 4. guitaristbl  |  October 16, 2016 at 4:02 am

    I don't know what will happen in the presidential election (I can only hope for the best) but at the very least the fact that there is a huge chance NC gets rid of McCrory and HB2 will be to blame mainly is so satisfying AND emboldening for the LGBT cause nationwide if a governor in a southern -ish state can lose his seat due to backlash to anti-LGBT laws. It will make others think twice before they proceed with something similar.

  • 5. scream4ever  |  October 16, 2016 at 9:42 am

    Both Trump and McCrory will lose. I'd bet my next paycheck on it.

  • 6. VIRick  |  October 15, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    Louisiana's Largest Newspaper Endorses Clinton

    From the editorial board of the New Orleans "Times-Picayune:"

    Mr. Trump has proved himself wholly unsuited to be president. He has spent this campaign denigrating women, Muslims, Mexicans, refugees, disabled people, the parents of a soldier who died in Iraq, and essentially, anyone who questioned him.

    He has suggested that an African-American protester at one of his rallies should be “roughed up,” made gross generalizations suggesting that all black people live in poor, violent neighborhoods, and has expressed support for racial profiling by police. And he threatened in the last debate to jail his political rival if elected.

    Mr. Trump’s go-to move is the insult. His combative style would be disastrous on the world stage, where poorly-chosen words can incite violence and cost lives. His affection for Russian dictator Vladimir Putin and use of Russian propaganda to attack Mrs. Clinton are a frightening signal of what his approach to foreign policy would be.

    The recording that surfaced on 8 October of Mr. Trump bragging about forcing himself on women and grabbing them between the legs is abhorrent. His characterization of the episode as mere “locker room talk” bespoke a pathological inability to acknowledge, and repair, his mistakes.

    As for which candidate is better for Louisiana, there is no contest. Mrs. Clinton is committed to investments in infrastructure, including ports, that would benefit our state. She also wants to offer pre-school to every 4-year-old, something that fits Louisiana’s goal of expanding and improving the quality of early childhood education.

    But for New Orleanians, perhaps the most compelling contrast between Mr. Trump and Mrs. Clinton is his intolerance and her inclusiveness. New Orleans has diversity in its DNA. A president who routinely degrades African-Americans, Hispanics, Muslims, and women could not, and would not, represent us.

    So Trump, you've been told.

  • 7. guitaristbl  |  October 16, 2016 at 4:03 am

    Positive but it won't make any difference in Louisiana anyway..Clinton would already win in New Orleans and lose badly almost everywhere else.

  • 8. JayJonson  |  October 16, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    Germany to compensate gay men prosecuted under Paragraph 175; other countries considering pardons and apologies

    I doubt that the US will be joining these countries any time soon.

  • 9. Randolph_Finder  |  October 17, 2016 at 7:20 am

    That sort of thing would have to go one state at a time. 🙁

  • 10. scream4ever  |  October 17, 2016 at 9:27 am

    California would definitely be the first one to do something like that.

  • 11. allan120102  |  October 16, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    Alex Mendez from Mexico congratulate the 9 states were ss couple can marry and the federal district saying that they are still fighting to win the right to marry in every state of the country.

  • 12. VIRick  |  October 16, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    In 126 Years, "The Arizona Republic" Never Endorsed a Democrat,– Until Now

    And then received death threats.

    From the publisher of "The Arizona Republic:"

    As someone who has spent a career in the business of words, it’s unusual to find myself speechless. Yet, there I was, a little more than two weeks ago. What is the correct response, really, to this?


    How did I come to be hearing these threats? More than a year ago, "The Republic’s" editorial board began taking a stand against the actions and positioning of Donald Trump. In piece after piece, we made it clear that his principles weren’t conservative. They were bad for the party, bad for Arizona, dangerous for America.

    But in its more than 125 years, "The Republic" had never endorsed a Democrat for president. So, over the many months of the campaign, we found ourselves with this question: Endorse no one, or endorse a Democrat for the first time in our history?

    We made our choice soberly. We knew it would be unpopular with many people. We knew that, although we had clearly stated our objections to Trump, it would be a big deal for a conservative editorial board in a conservative state to break ranks from the party.

    We chose patriotism over party. We endorsed the Democrat. And then the reactions started pouring in. Threats against our business. Threats against our people. So, what is the response?

    What is the correct response to any of the vile threats against me? What is the correct response to the more disturbing actions and words directed against so many others? I’ve thought about those responses a lot. Today, I offer you a few.

    The newspaper's responses are here:

    This long-standing Phoenix-based newspaper is Arizona's largest and dates back to territorial days. It has been owned by multiple generations of the Pulliam family, and generally speaking, takes a position somewhere to the right of the philosophy of Barry Goldwater and John McCain. Mi-Ai Parrish is the current president of "The Arizona Republic" and the granddaughter of Korean immigrants.

  • 13. allan120102  |  October 17, 2016 at 1:07 am

    24 couples have married in Guanajuato.

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