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11/8 open thread


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  • 1. VIRick  |  November 8, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    Italy: Court Recognizes a Child as Having Two Fathers

    Per LGBT Marriage News:

    On 5 November 2021, an Italian court has ordered the Milan municipal government to register a child as born to two fathers, a first in the country, after the Constitutional Court of Italy had previously recognized a different child as having two mothers.

    Il giudice ordina al Comune di Milano di riconoscere il bimbo con due papà. Il piccolo, figlio di un italiano e un americano, è nato negli Stati Uniti grazie alla maternità surrogata.

    The judge orders the Municipality of Milan to recognize the child with two fathers. The little one, son of an Italian and an American, was born in the United States thanks to a surrogate maternity.

  • 2. Randolph_Finder  |  November 9, 2021 at 6:41 am

    The *south*…

    Once Chile passes Marriage Equality, as far as I can tell, the farthest south place without Marriage Equality will be the south end of Lesotho, surrounded by South Africa. The farthest south place in South America will be the southern end of Paraguay and as for Oceania, that gets tough. there are a number of independent like Tonga (or quasi independent) like Nuie islands across the south Pacific that are about at the same latitude without Marriage Equality.

    Or to put it another way, Russia will have the undisputed crown of closest to a pole without Marriage Equality.

  • 3. ianbirmingham  |  November 9, 2021 at 2:41 pm

    New Abu Dhabi law allows civil marriage for non-Muslims

    The law consists of 20 articles covering civil marriage, divorce, joint custody of children, proof of paternity and inheritance among non-Muslim families. One provision introduces the concept of shared custody between the parents “to safeguard the family's cohesion after divorce and to preserve the psychological health of the children.” Another provision allows for civil marriage “based on the will of both the husband and wife,” rather than requiring consent from the woman’s guardian. Non-Muslims will no longer need to prove harm was done in the marriage in order to obtain a divorce. The law also addresses inheritance issues and wills for non-Muslims.

    Abu Dhabi will set up a new court for non-Muslim family members, which will hear cases in both Arabic and English to “improve judicial transparency” and accommodate the Gulf state’s large expat population.

    Last year, the United Arab Emirates rolled out a series of personal freedoms reforms, including an easing of alcohol restrictions and decriminalization of premarital sex.


    Not announcing SSM in the Middle East here, but it's still progress!

  • 4. VIRick  |  November 9, 2021 at 7:54 pm

    Here is a relatively accurate worldwide map, dated 2019, showing which countries only recognize civil marriage, which ones only recognize religious marriage, and which ones recognize both civil and religious marriage, along with several additional caveats (like only recognizing civil marriage for foreigners, or only recognizing it for non-Muslims).

    Given the wording expressed in the new Abu Dhabi marriage law, it would now appear that Abu Dhabi falls into the last-named (yellow) category, along with Malaysia.

    In this regard, the broader Muslim world is not quite as far behind the rest of the world as one might have otherwise expected. Note that Muslim-majority Turkey, Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia, any constituent portion of the ex-Soviet Union, and all of Sahel Africa recognize civil marriage only (blue or grey). In addition, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Sudan, Eritrea, Somalia, Oman, Maldives, Iraq, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Brunei recognize both civil and religious marriage (green), while Egypt, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Afghanistan recognize civil marriage only for foreigners (orange).

    Mauritania, Libya, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Qatar, the rest of the UAE, and Indonesia only recognize religious marriage (red).

    In addition, notice how advanced all of Latin America is on this point regarding civil marriage, as only 6 of 20 Latin nations still bother to also officially recognize religious marriage, an extra ritual which, like in most of Western Europe, is otherwise legally meaningless. Even an assortment of non-Latin Caribbean nations only recognize civil marriage: Bahamas, Jamaica, Cayman Islands, Belize, Aruba, Trinidad/Tobago, Grenada, St. Vincent/Grenadines, and Barbados, plus all French islands.

    Almost all of East Asia also only officially recognizes civil marriage, a major factor that points out why East Asia will likely continue to follow Latin America as the next major area of the world to legalize same-sex marriage.

  • 5. VIRick  |  November 10, 2021 at 9:57 am

    Indiana: Two Transgender Boys Sue School District for Discrimination

    On Monday, 8 November 2021, two transgender students at Terre Haute North High School filed a federal lawsuit against an Indiana school district after its employees denied them access to restrooms that fit their gender identity. The suit against the Vigo County School Corp was filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana and Indiana Legal Services.

    Other issues raised in the suit include teachers continuing to use feminine pronouns in reference to the teens, and the principal refusing to allow their names to be listed in the yearbook; instead, making them be listed under their birth names.

    The lawsuit states that preventing the teens from using the correct restrooms and refusing to recognize their correct names and pronouns, violates both the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution and Title IX of the Education Amendments Act of 1972.

  • 6. ianbirmingham  |  November 10, 2021 at 10:59 am

    Nevada Democrat seeks to become first openly transgender statewide elected official

    Democrat Kimi Cole is announcing Wednesday her bid to become Nevada’s lieutenant governor — and break barriers for the transgender community in the process.

    Cole, the chair of the Nevada Democratic Rural Caucus, would be the first openly transgender statewide elected official in the country if she won, according to her campaign.

    Cole, a retired construction project manager, is running as a progressive in a state where the left has notched several big victories in recent years. Sanders won the state’s 2020 caucuses and, in March, progressives took over the state party.

  • 7. ianbirmingham  |  November 10, 2021 at 11:03 am

    Trumpanzee from New Jersey gets hit with toughest sentence yet in Jan. 6 attack

    Scott Fairlamb, 44, a former MMA fighter and gym owner, is the first defendant charged with assaulting an officer during the attack to face sentencing. The judge, Royce Lamberth, said he expected Fairlamb’s 41-month sentence would end up lower than others also facing charges for assaulting police that day.

    Fairlamb was one of the first to breach the Capitol on Jan. 6, entering through a door that was kicked open shortly after the first wave of rioters entered through a smashed window. He carried a stolen police baton on his way in, though he wasn’t charged with wielding it.

    Outside the building, Fairlamb urged other members of the mob forward: “We f—-ing disarm them and we storm the Capitol,” he said, an exhortation that was captured on video and played in court.

    Three days after the attack, Fairlamb filmed a video celebrating the attack and saying, “They pulled the pin on the grenade, and the blackout is coming. What a time to be a patriot.”

  • 8. ianbirmingham  |  November 11, 2021 at 10:28 am

    Oregon: Newberg school board fires superintendent without cause in 4-3 vote

    The four conservative board members who voted to fire Superintendent Dr. Joe Morelock are the same four who passed a controversial rule banning political symbols in schools, including Pride and Black Lives Matter signs. Because the board fired him without cause, they will have to continue paying him for 12 months.

    Board Chair Dave Brown’s neighbor has put up Black Lives Matter signs and a pride flag facing Brown’s property.

    The teacher's union has filed a lawsuit against the school district and the four board members over their ban on political flags.

  • 9. ianbirmingham  |  November 11, 2021 at 10:31 am

    After nixing diversity symbols, school district fires leader

    A school board in Oregon that recently tried to ban teachers from displaying gay pride and Black Lives Matter symbols has abruptly fired the school superintendent, deeply upsetting board members who opposed the move.

    The Newberg Education Association union has already filed a lawsuit over a policy passed by the conservative school board members that limits what kinds of images or signs school employees can display on campus. The board initially passed a rule banning school staff from displaying Black Lives Matter and gay pride symbols, but then expanded it to all political or controversial signs after being advised the first rule wouldn't survive a legal challenge.

    The union argues the policy violates the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protecting free speech and the Fourteenth Amendment guaranteeing equal protection.

    Update: Board member Brandy Penner said Wednesday she believes the conservative board members fired Morelock because he didn't aggressively implement their ban on controversial political symbols, adding that the policy didn't define what symbols would be unacceptable.

  • 10. VIRick  |  November 11, 2021 at 4:49 pm

    Querétaro: Marriage Equality Reform Not Officially Published by Deadline

    Per Héctor R. Herrera S.:

    La reforma al Código Civil de Querétaro que permitía el matrimonio igualitario en ese estado no fue publicada, siendo hoy el 11 de noviembre 2021, el último día para hacerlo.

    The reform to the Querétaro Civil Code that would allow for marriage equality in that state was not published, today being 11 November 2021, the last day to do so.

    Apparently, the Government Secretary prefers to unilaterally provoke a constitutional crisis over the matter of the non-publication of a piece of legislation in "La Sombra de Atreaga," the official state newspaper, legislation that was already duly passed by the state Congress, and which was never vetoed within the allotted 10-day time-frame by the state Governor. In fact, even to this late date, the governor has never exercised his veto power.

    According to her official job description, the Government Secretary does not have the discretion to simply refuse to publish legislation with which she is in non-agreement.

  • 11. VIRick  |  November 12, 2021 at 10:57 am

    Querétaro: Marriage Equality Reform Enters into Force on 13 November 2021

    Per LGBT Marriage News:

    Marriage equality will come into force in Querétaro state from 13 November 2021, after the state congress took it upon itself to publish the new law in the local newspapers today, 12 November, as the Governor (and Government Secretary) had refused to publish the bill in the official journal.

    Per "Plaza de Armas:"

    En la edición de "Plaza de Armas" de hoy (el 12 de noviembre 2021) se publica por parte del Congreso estatal la ley que reforma diversas disposiciones del Código Civil del Estado de Querétaro aprobada el 22 de septiembre por la 59 Legislatura para reconfigurar el matrimonio, concubinato, y adopción de parejas del mismo sexo, como ya ocurre en la mayor parte del país y con lo cual nuestra entidad es una de las 24 en contar con legislación incluyente en materia de derechos humanos.

    Se modifican y mañana mismo entran en vigor los artículos 137, 150, 158, 160, 163, 198, 200, 273 en su primer párrafo, 486, el 728 en la fracción II y el 2893, siendo el principal cambio establecer que el matrimonio es la unión de dos personas y lo mismo en el caso del concubinato, la unión de dos personas, libres de matrimonio, con el propósito de integrar una familia y realizar una comunidad de vida con igualdad de derechos y obligaciones.

  • 12. scream4ever  |  November 12, 2021 at 10:05 pm

    Wonderful! I assume Yucatan will be the next state with full legalization.

  • 13. VIRick  |  November 13, 2021 at 9:25 am

    The state Congress of Yucatán has until sometime in March of 2022 to pass the enabling legislation to allow for marriage equality in that state. Given their past record of obfuscation, I suspect that they will drag out the process to the bitter end.

    In the meantime, new marriage equality measures have been introduced into the state Congresses of Guanajuato, Edomex, Tamaulipas, and Aguascalientes. The Verde proposal in the new Guanajuato Congress, with wide backing, looks particularly promising. The one in Aguascalientes would bring state law up to the actual practice, as per the earlier Supreme Court ruling against that state (just as what finally occurred in Baja California earlier in 2021). The proposal in the new Tamaulipas Congress, now with a Morena majority, and under continuing court orders (like in Yucatán, or previously, in Sinaloa, Sonora, and Querétaro), needs to be passed, or the individual members could be personally liable to hefty fines.

    In addition, there is still the pending "Action of Unconstitutionality" before the Supreme Court looming against Veracruz. This ruling should be handed down quite soon, and very likely, will be issued before the end of the current year. Given that Veracruz is Mexico's second-most-populous state, this ruling will be significant.

    I hesitate to speculate as to which state will be next, but chances are that either Veracruz and/or Guanajuato, possibly both, will beat the Yucatán deadline of March 2022. Separately, Edomex has slated its own deadline as being mid-2022.

    Even after all of this activity, there would still be 4 states without marriage equality: Durango, Zacatecas, Guerrero, and Tabasco, but with the caveat that certain municipalities in both Zacatecas and Guerrero already allow for marriage equality based strictly on Supreme Court jurisprudence.

  • 14. ianbirmingham  |  November 11, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    Years after legalizing gay marriage, Ireland finally removes homophobic and misogynistic teaching material

    Irish education officials have removed teaching material that asked teenage students to discuss inflammatory, false statements such as “all gays molest children,” “girls who don’t wear make-up are lesbian” and “all gays are HIV positive.”

    The online teaching resources, developed after relationships and sexuality education became a compulsory part of the school curriculum in the 1990s, were used as recently as April, according to Pamela O’Leary, a guidance counselor from Cork who lobbied for their removal.

    She posted screenshots of some of the now-deleted materials on Wednesday. The pictures included statements such as “you can change from being a homosexual” and “homosexuals try to make others homosexual,” that the students were invited to debate. Similar rhetoric — which has been debunked by scientists and policymakers — was used for decades in anti-gay campaigns.

    A recent study co-led by Ireland’s University of Limerick found that many trans and gender diverse young people feel marginalized in school and experience prejudicial treatment including misnaming and misgendering.

  • 15. VIRick  |  November 11, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    Cuba: Work Continues on New Family Code to Allow for Marriage Equality

    El Código de las Familias llega a la versión 23: Expertos continúan enmendando la ley que permitirá el matrimonio LGBTQ en Cuba. Miguel Díaz-Canel, el presidente cubano, encabezó una reunión el lunes, el 8 de noviembre 2021.

    The Family Code reaches version 23: Experts continue to amend the law that will allow LGBTQ marriage in Cuba. The Cuban President, Miguel Díaz-Canel, headed the meeting on Monday, 8 November 2021.

  • 16. ianbirmingham  |  November 12, 2021 at 5:08 pm

    Oklahoma has a "Republican Trifecta": The Republican Party controls the office of governor and both chambers of the state legislature.

    In the Senate, Republicans have a 39-9 super-majority.

    In the House, Republicans have a super-majority of 82-19.

    The Oklahoma governor does not have the authority to order the Legislature to do anything.

    Butt these numbers show that the Oklahoma Legislature may well be experiencing its very own special backdoor category of super-hemmorhoidal dysfunctions.

  • 17. ianbirmingham  |  November 12, 2021 at 7:19 pm

    Former top strategist, Trumpanzee Steve Bannon, is indicted by a federal grand jury for contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena to testify before the House's Select Committee on the January 6th Capitol attack; Federal Magistrate signs warrant for Bannon's arrest

    The indictment is a first. No one has been prosecuted before for contempt of Congress when executive privilege was asserted.

    He was charged Friday with two contempt counts — one for refusing to appear for a deposition and another for declining to produce documents requested by the committee.

  • 18. bayareajohn  |  November 15, 2021 at 12:01 am

    It strikes me that to be subpoenaed for testimony about participating in or abetting a criminal conspiracy and to rely on executive privilege to refuse to testify relies on an unspoken but clear admission that the president was directly involved in the conspiracy. If not, there's no privileged communication to protect…

  • 19. VIRick  |  November 13, 2021 at 11:06 am

    Querétaro: 10 Same-Sex Couples in San Juan del Río Seek to Marry

    Per "El Sol de San Juan del Río:"

    Tras la aprobación del matrimonio igualitario, al menos 10 parejas sanjuanenses del mismo sexo buscan casarse.

    Following the approval of marriage equality, at least 10 same-sex couples from San Juan del Río seek to marry.

    Beginning in mid-2015 with the state capital, Santiago de Querétaro, and continuing, almost half of the municipalities in Querétaro state eventually allowed for marriage equality based strictly on Supreme Court jurisprudence. However, San Juan del Río, the second-most-populous municipality in the state, was not one of them.

  • 20. VIRick  |  November 13, 2021 at 12:09 pm

    Chihuahua: First Same-Sex Marriage in Santa Cruz de Rosales

    Este es el primer matrimonio igualitario e internacional contrajeron en la Casa de la Cultura en el municipio de Rosales. La pareja se conoció a través de la red social de Tik Tok, mientras una estaba en México y su otra mitad en Argentina. Durante un viaje en esta región, la pandemia le impidió a la extranjera regresar a su país natal.

    Por esta razón, decidieron unir sus vidas legalmente después de vivir algún tiempo en unión libre. Ahora, el 12 de noviembre 2021, celebraron su unión especial, rodeados de amigos y familia, se convirtieron en las primeras personas del mismo sexo en contraer matrimonio por lo civil en este municipio.

    This is the first egalitarian and international marriage contracted at the Casa de la Cultura in the municipality of Rosales. The couple met through the Tik Tok social network, with one being in Mexico and the other in Argentina. During a trip to this region, the pandemic prevented the foreigner from returning to her native country.

    For this reason, they decided to legally unite their lives after living some time together in a free union. Now, on 12 November 2021, they celebrated their special union, surrounded by friends and family, becoming the first same-sex couple to contract civil marriage in this municipality.

    Although Chihuahua state has had marriage equality for over 6 years, Santa Cruz de Rosales is a relatively small-population municipality east of Ciudad Chihuahua, the state capital.

  • 21. ianbirmingham  |  November 13, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    Taiwan Chosen to Host WorldPride 2025

    WorldPride 2025 will take place in Kaohsiung City, Taiwan, which will be the first time a WorldPride will be held in an East Asian country. Kaohsiung Pride beat out Washington, D.C.’s Capital Pride Alliance to host the event. Today’s decision came after more than 300 member organizations from around the world voted during InterPride’s 2021 general meeting.

    “The WorldPride Taiwan Team 2025 would like to thank all before us who lit the way, to thank InterPride who built this wonderful organization and platform and thank our supporters who have bestowed this amazing opportunity for Taiwan and Asia,” Darien Chen, spokesperson for Kaohsiung Pride, said in a press release. “This is the beginning of a 4-year journey that we plan to ignite change in Asia, to promote InterPride's mission, and to advance human rights in the world.”

    WorldPride has previously taken place in Rome, Jerusalem, London, Toronto, Madrid, New York City, and Copenhagen. Sydney will host WorldPride 2023.

  • 22. ianbirmingham  |  November 13, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    Alabama Trumpanzee who brought 11 Molotov cocktails and a truck loaded with multiple guns and ammunition to the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 pleads guilty, faces potential sentence of up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine

    As a result of pleading guilty, Coffman said he understood that he could no longer own any firearms. Coffman’s sentencing hearing is set for April 1, 2022.

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