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Liveblogging Day 4: Daily Summary

By Julia Rosen

Well this one was a long one, with Judge Walker continuing the cross-examination of Dr. Meyer well past 5 pm.

As has become tradition here, the compiled liveblogging from Rick Jacobs is below. You can find all of the Daily Summaries here. They will all be categorized and appear there. Same with liveblogging, all of the posts are here. Per a reader’s suggestion, we have added a category cloud on the right side bar. It should make navigating the site easier.

Rick will be back in that hard seat hammering out the live coverage of day five tomorrow morning first thing. (more…)

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What Did We Learn and Why is Courage Here?

By Rick Jacobs

The morning was consumed with our side trying to show that SF and by extension all jurisdictions will be better off if same-sex marriage is legal. Dr. Egan did a very good job of demonstrating that from a statistical perspective, although I was a bit disappointed that he did not know more about the basis of the Williams Institute studies. (Again, the Williams Institute as a unique center at UCLA that deals with LGBT issues and the law and does other academic studies around LGBT issues. Its executive director is a super-smart lawyer name Brad Sears. Check them out here.)

The Prop. 8 side did a pretty good job of trying to impeach his data, trying to show that there are not enough data to draw the conclusions he does, such as that if everyone could marry, we’d be healthier and more productive. However, taken in the context of the previous four days, it’s clear that the level of discrimination that hangs in society has and does damage gay and lesbian people. It’s insidious and perpetual. Therefore, while Prop. 8 picked away at pieces of the data trying to show that Dr. Egan could not know if same sex marriage would decrease opposite sex marriage, doing everything he could to keep the studies and statistics on bullying of apparently homosexual kids out of this trial, the mosaic from a distance is clear. The pattern is indiscernible up close, but you sure can see it. Perpetual discrimination has damaged us. Marriage equality is the lifting of that weight.

My partner (not roommate, not lover, not business partner) Shaun Kadlec made a really great point last night. He is much younger than I am and much smarter. He said that he grew up thinking that the space shuttle was really neat, but no big deal. He grew up with the knowledge that man had been on the moon. No big deal. But he has come to learn how to use the Internet. The next generation will never question or even imagine life without the Internet.

Now, imagine the generation that grows up knowing that gays and lesbians marry and have families. They don’t “partner.” They don’t “skulk.” They are not less than because, as Dr. Cott said on Monday and Tuesday, this highly prestigious institution of marriage is available to all equally.

One other point: Many of you may be new to the Courage Campaign. We have been around for four years. I founded it here in California in late 2005 as an extension of my having chaired Howard Dean’s presidential campaign in California. Every four years, California exports labor and capital for presidential elections; we did so in a huge way for Obama and have done so reliably since 1992, the last time we were a “battleground” state. (Clinton v. Bush v. Perot)

This state has the greatest potential of any in the country to lead and transform our nation in every way. We have seen that more often in the negative since 1978 when Grover Norquist’s wet dream began to come true with the passage of Prop. 13 in this state. That began the so-called taxpayers revolution that undercut government, gutted education and programs for those who most need government. The result 32 years later is that California has gone from number one in education to number 47 or so.

The initiative process is a huge part of the problem. It not only has helped to destroy our state economically, but it has taken rights from people on three occasions, the most recent of which is Prop. 8. (The other two were in 1964 when voters here passed an initiative that overrode the equal housing act, but the courts threw that out. Then in 1992, this state voted that undocumented people could have no access to state services, ie. schools and hospitals. The courts threw that out. Obviously, the courts have maintained Prop. 8, so here we are.)

I write this now because Courage Campaign, which is more than 700,000 strong in California and across the country, is member driven and is a fundamental piece of the progressive movement. We believe that LGBT rights will be gained fully as part of that movement and that our rights are fully integrated with those who have suffered and will suffer even more this year because of the California budget and governance disaster. That’s why Courage leads on issues around budget reform and in this coming year, pending member surveys, on matters ranging from taxing oil companies in this state to pay for higher education to holding right wing folks accountable.

How, you might ask, does this all fit with our enthusiastic support for Ted Olson in this trial? Well, as I’ve said, I’ve known him for twenty-five years. He’s conservative in the classic sense. He’s not reactionary. And he’s very smart. So progress comes in various forms, but all that we do is linked to that movement that will make our state and country great again, but only with your engagement, with your support.

When the AP and others identify us as a “gay rights organization,” that diminishes all of us. That implies, first of all, that gay rights are separate from other people’s rights. And that’s what this trial is all about. We’re all on trial here because of the ability of the right wing to balkanize us, to say, “that’s a Latino rights organization” or “that’s a gay rights organization.” What they don’t want to see is that mosaic of America of which we are all part. We are a progressive, multi-issue, member driven organization. Our members are very interested in LGBT rights, so here we are. And our members are interested in a society that provides social justice and equal access.

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Liveblogging Day 4: Part III more from Eagan

By Rick Jacobs

While we wait for the trial to resume, a few thoughts.

1. For most of the world, Haiti is the big news, as well it should be. The level of destruction and human suffering there is unimaginable. As I read the NYT this morning with two front page stories about Haiti, I could not begin to conceptualize what 45,000 possible deaths even means, especially in a country as riven as Haiti. So many Courage Campaign members and other progressives are joining with others around the country to try to pitch in.

2. The news out of DC that Obama is apparently trying to get some of the billions back from the bankers is heartening. We’ll see.

It’s hard to keep up with the world when focusing so intently one piece of it here in this court room. Some might say that in light of the big horror in Haiti and all of the other problems in this country and the world, that we should not focus so much on “the gays.” Well, the above are exactly why this case matters so much. We have to open our society to equality so that all of us can focus our energy and attention on progress, on making our society and country and world better for all, not necessarily something the right wing really wants to have happen (witness Pat Robertson on Haiti).

Okay, we’re back!

[UPDATE] 11:11 11:00AM, we’re back to Eagan.

[P is trying to show that he E used the Williams Institute methodology and not his own.] $2.7 million in annual revenues? (more…)

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Liveblog Day 4: Part II Dr. Eagan continues

By Rick Jacobs

Eagan: 5,100 marriage licenses issued when legal. Some of those were out of state. Weddings have two types of impact on local economy: 1. Event itself, which yields sales tax; 2. Guests who stay at hotels and eat at restaurants.

E: If prohibition were lifted, first we’d see more resident weddings which would be $21 million per year. Non-resident marriages produce event, per diem and hotel revenue. Third set of new economic activity would be out of town guests who come for resident weddings and spend per diem and hotel revenues. All totaled up, the spending effect is on the order of $35 million and hotel revenue $2 mm, $1.7 mm of sales and .9mm for hotel tax. Short-term projection per year. Reasonable to assume we’d see return to this level as soon as legal, but not at this rate forever. Always new people who want to get married, so always new revenue.

E: If marriage for same sex couples permitted, would result in income tax savings for them. They’d spend some of that money in SF which would yield more sales tax. DOMA would have to be lifted before we’d see the effect of this. Average savings per same sex couple (some would have higher tax burden), but average is $440 per couple. If they spent all of that in SF on taxable goods would yield $74,000 per in increased sales tax revenue as would state which gets more than county on sales tax. To the extent that benefits improve if married and do not then have to pay for spousal insurance, they’d have more money to spend. (more…)

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Liveblog Day 4: Part I

By Rick Jacobs

Good morning! The judge just sat down and is talking, but there’s no sound in the overflow room! Mr. Cooper is talking. I have heard that there is going to be further effort to keep the lid on this trial, but let’s see.

A few minutes ago, someone walked in to ask if everyone in this room is from the media.

Sounds is on.

[UPDATE] 8:51 Edwin A. Egan is up now. He’s Chief Economist, City and County of SF, director of the office of economic analysis within the controller’s office of SF. Was and still is Adjunct Prof. at UC Berkeley where he teaches grad students, teaches course “Urban and Regional Economy” to masters and PhD students. Before joining the county in 2007, worked on Toronto economic plan and before joining SF worked on SF plan. Published a series of articles on economic policy and analysis. Has PhD from UC Berkeley.

[UPDATE] 9:03 E: Exhibit 2324 is CV, which represents his academic experience. [It’s placed into evidence.] Describes his work in office of controller wherein they determine economic impact of any proposed SF Board of Supes legislation to insure that Board has full understanding of economic impact on legislation before they act. We look to see if legislation has real regulatory power to affect behavior of individuals, businesses to see how legislation would impact. If greater than $10 million of economic impact, we prepare written and verbal reports.

Reports are called economic impact reports. Reliant on government statistical data from state and federal governments as well as from city departments, information from people who work in the city and private sector sometimes.
We rely on research.

[Witness accepted as an opinion witness in the field for which designated.]

Have you undertaken analysis on the impact of same-sex married couples in SF? (more…)

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